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If Battlefiel 4 and COD Ghosts are the standards and resolutions is the only difference...

So, for those who belive the gap will widen are you expecting PS4 to go beyound 1080p and 60 fps?

:)

Well, some time people forget that the PS4 sitll has a low range CPU with a mid range GPU. Just because the GPU is a little bigger than the XOne´s it dosen´t make it the state of the art.




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Console is the mainstream for gaming, PC is relatively small in comparison, everyone knows that the pc is more powerful but what does it matter and the discussion is not related to the console port machine? He just telling that visually one had more capacity then the other abd that it will be more noticeable in time.



RIP ps3, xbox360.

welcome home ps4 and X1

Skeeuk said:
you will defiantly see gap widening there's no doubt about that, however visual gap doesn't mean better games

this is true but Sony has proven studios who only have more power to play with now.  I would be shocked if the increase in quality wasn't right up there with the increase in fidelity.




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The gap between PS4 and Xbone is not as big as PS2 and Xbox. Anyone old enough will tell you that that gap was pretty wide, and in the end, didn't really help MS at all. I think we will see PS4 exclusives that look better, but that's about it. Unless a dev wants to seriously jeopardize their relationship with MS, they are going to make sure one version doesn't blow away the other. There was a lot of bad press thrown on IW for making Ghosts 1080p on PS4 while shipping the Xbone version at 720P and I'm guessing that won't happen again.



prayformojo said:
The gap between PS4 and Xbone is not as big as PS2 and Xbox. Anyone old enough will tell you that that gap was pretty wide, and in the end, didn't really help MS at all. I think we will see PS4 exclusives that look better, but that's about it. Unless a dev wants to seriously jeopardize their relationship with MS, they are going to make sure one version doesn't blow away the other. There was a lot of bad press thrown on IW for making Ghosts 1080p on PS4 while shipping the Xbone version at 720P and I'm guessing that won't happen again.

Most weren't angry at IW for doing that.  In fact I didn't see anyone panning IW for it (don't start giving me links I'm sure SOMEONE said that I'm just saying it wasn't the general thing).  MS was catching shit for it because their system was obviously underpowered which they had been trying to downplay all Summer in one manner or another.




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platformmaster918 said:
prayformojo said:
The gap between PS4 and Xbone is not as big as PS2 and Xbox. Anyone old enough will tell you that that gap was pretty wide, and in the end, didn't really help MS at all. I think we will see PS4 exclusives that look better, but that's about it. Unless a dev wants to seriously jeopardize their relationship with MS, they are going to make sure one version doesn't blow away the other. There was a lot of bad press thrown on IW for making Ghosts 1080p on PS4 while shipping the Xbone version at 720P and I'm guessing that won't happen again.

Most weren't angry at IW for doing that.  In fact I didn't see anyone panning IW for it (don't start giving me links I'm sure SOMEONE said that I'm just saying it wasn't the general thing).  MS was catching shit for it because their system was obviously underpowered which they had been trying to downplay all Summer in one manner or another.

When I said bad press, I meant that simply having this come to light was bad for both MS and IW. It was bad for MS because of the reasons you state and THAT, in turn, is bad for IW because they want a good relationship with their business partners and you don't do that by gimping one version over the other. MS was probably none to happy about it and I'm sure behind the scenes, phone calls were made of the angry variety.

My money is on the next COD looking identical or damn near close.



prayformojo said:
platformmaster918 said:
prayformojo said:
The gap between PS4 and Xbone is not as big as PS2 and Xbox. Anyone old enough will tell you that that gap was pretty wide, and in the end, didn't really help MS at all. I think we will see PS4 exclusives that look better, but that's about it. Unless a dev wants to seriously jeopardize their relationship with MS, they are going to make sure one version doesn't blow away the other. There was a lot of bad press thrown on IW for making Ghosts 1080p on PS4 while shipping the Xbone version at 720P and I'm guessing that won't happen again.

Most weren't angry at IW for doing that.  In fact I didn't see anyone panning IW for it (don't start giving me links I'm sure SOMEONE said that I'm just saying it wasn't the general thing).  MS was catching shit for it because their system was obviously underpowered which they had been trying to downplay all Summer in one manner or another.

When I said bad press, I meant that simply having this come to light was bad for both MS and IW. It was bad for MS because of the reasons you state and THAT, in turn, is bad for IW because they want a good relationship with their business partners and you don't do that by gimping one version over the other. MS was probably none to happy about it and I'm sure behind the scenes, phone calls were made of the angry variety.

My money is on the next COD looking identical or damn near close.

I don't know how MS could demand that.  What are they gonna do?  They NEED COD and if MS wants to try to strong arm them or charge more for putting it on their system or not advertise or something then Activision can take offers from Sony.  They have the biggest franchise and early COD DLC has contributed a LOT to the Xbox brand's growth.  Now I'm sure contracts are worked out but COD is going to sell regardless unless MS starts charging $80 for it or something which would just drive people to the PS4.




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prayformojo said:
The gap between PS4 and Xbone is not as big as PS2 and Xbox. Anyone old enough will tell you that that gap was pretty wide, and in the end, didn't really help MS at all

Sure, but that was also down to PS2 having a massive launch lead and thus install base lead, and MS also fucking things up with 3rd party devs.

prayformojo said:
 I think we will see PS4 exclusives that look better, but that's about it. Unless a dev wants to seriously jeopardize their relationship with MS, they are going to make sure one version doesn't blow away the other. There was a lot of bad press thrown on IW for making Ghosts 1080p on PS4 while shipping the Xbone version at 720P and I'm guessing that won't happen again.

As far as I know, the bad press has not been with the idea that they should dumb down to the lowest common denominator, but simply addressing the weaker platform as such as responsible for the difference (i.e. using x-platform games as a means to evaluate each of the new consoles themselves).  Each game may make decisions on resolution vs. other graphical (and non-graphic) features, but in any scenario PS4 is left with more resources/power to deploy as it wishes, whether on resolution, graphics details like material textures, lighting, occlusion, things like audio raycasting, or GPGPU applications including physics and AI.  Some of that is less likely to be fully leveraged on x-platform games, but no matter what they will be able to 'turn up the quality dial' (or more easily achieve SOLID framerates, etc).

I'm really unclear how MS is supposed to dictate that 3rd parties dumb down their PS4 versions, what leverage do they have when PS4 has the larger install base and game sales?  Why the AAA devs directly stating that they are not dumbing down versions for parity and more or less acknowledging the performance difference between each platform's version (while trying to talk nice about each platform and not directly compare them)?



Yeah, he has to say that because it was just revealed that the 1080p patch will be coming to Xbox One!



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

I hope the PS4 dominates to a degree that Xbox One and Wii U totally leave the market and Sony has it all to themselves.