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deskpro2k3 said:

Assuming you never played a high profile console game before. Not all have QTEs, just like not all PC games is only point and clicking.

Using your analogy with cars, I'll show you where its flaws are. Anyone can go out and buy a powerful gaming computer, or a 350 horse power luxury sports car if they save up for it. The fact of the matter is roads have speed limits so you may never fully utilize that 350 horse power engine that cost you maybe $200k, and game developers will not fully utilize the power of a PC because not everyone can afford one.

As a matter of fact, PC is trying to appeal to the console gamers. SteamBox AKA Sbox.

You say you don't like compromises, thats fine. Blame game developers.


The car analogy is a bad one.
Why?
Because with all the extra horse power the PC has... It can be used for driving up the Resolution, Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering.
And if that ain't good enough? Then triple monitor.

Then you have mods, oh the mods. They can turn an average looking game (Like Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim) into something fantastic.
Take Ice Enhancer for example.
You can get stuff like this:

Out of Grand Theft Auto IV. - Heck it looks way better than the latest Grand theft Auto.

Or hows about Crysis 1? Why not use the extra horsepower and give yourself this kind of image quality:


And that is how the extra horse power is put to good use, making your car anology pointless.




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It works both ways. P.C. gamers are no more delusional than console gamers.



Pemalite said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Assuming you never played a high profile console game before. Not all have QTEs, just like not all PC games is only point and clicking.

Using your analogy with cars, I'll show you where its flaws are. Anyone can go out and buy a powerful gaming computer, or a 350 horse power luxury sports car if they save up for it. The fact of the matter is roads have speed limits so you may never fully utilize that 350 horse power engine that cost you maybe $200k, and game developers will not fully utilize the power of a PC because not everyone can afford one.

As a matter of fact, PC is trying to appeal to the console gamers. SteamBox AKA Sbox.

You say you don't like compromises, thats fine. Blame game developers.


The car analogy is a bad one.
Why?
Because with all the extra horse power the PC has... It can be used for driving up the Resolution, Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering.
And if that ain't good enough? Then triple monitor.

Then you have mods, oh the mods. They can turn an average looking game (Like Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim) into something fantastic.
Take Ice Enhancer for example.
You can get stuff like this:

Out of Grand Theft Auto IV. - Heck it looks way better than the latest Grand theft Auto.

Or hows about Crysis 1? Why not use the extra horsepower and give yourself this kind of image quality:


And that is how the extra horse power is put to good use, making your car anology pointless.

 

The car analogy was yours from the start, and in your own words, its pointless. For the sake of arguments, I'm glad we're seeing things eye to eye here.

Mod your games, I'll just play mine and enjoy my exclusives.



been a console gamer all my life. But recently I was seriously considering to jump on board with "PC race" with a 660ti, i5 4430 Dualshock4 this would have set me back less than what a PS4 would cost me. and would be good enough for 3 years atleast, which would be the same amount of time as a PS4 would last.. but i thought why i had played on Playstation, it was because of games.. most importantly have only played exclusives God Of war, uncharted Ratchet and clank, uncharted, infamous and many more.. the only two games i was looking forward too play and upgrade my PC was for The Division and Watchdogs. I just cant give up on the quality of dev studios that sony has. and there is nothing on the PC that has enticed me to play all i hear people talking about is DOTA WOW and few other select game. haven't heard about any new ground breaking new IP's on PC.. sure that extra horse power will make games look better, but those game wont be the games i want to play..

P.s. I have a decent enough rig: 8gb ddr3.. Phenom X4 965 and HD7770 still doesn't provide the same fidelity as PS4 in BF4..



deskpro2k3 said:

 

The car analogy was yours from the start, and in your own words, its pointless. For the sake of arguments, I'm glad we're seeing things eye to eye here.

Mod your games, I'll just play mine and enjoy my exclusives.


At-least within context mine wasn't contradicting itself.

I'll enjoy my exclusives too. (Funny how every platform has them, right?)




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pokoko said:
You're being just as elitist with your stereotypes as the people you're railing against. The things you're accusing "PC gamers" of don't even apply to the majority of PC gamers.

Also, I think your return key is broken.


This. Just like fanboys are big and vocal minorities, but still minorities, amongst console gamers, so elitists and power whores are big and vocal minorities, but still minorities amongst PC gamers. It's vocality that gives the wrong impression in both cases, making them look more than they actually are. BTW it's the same trick used by the most extremist part of no-globals.

PC gaming is not just about power, and not even necessarily. For the majority of gamers PC gaming is about versatility, longer term BC, lower game prices and freedom in many aspects, from the games markets to the ability of setting up free amateur-run servers to moddability and I'm surely forgetting something.



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I think you have gotten the wrong impression about a lot of PC gamers.
What you perceive as an elitist attitude is simply a response to the console war constant battle "my game has higher resolution and framerate than yours"

My personal reason for telling console gamers that PC games are of a better quality is to shut them up about these stupid little technical details, and hopefully make them realise there is more to a game that 1080p 60fps.



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Pemalite said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

The car analogy was yours from the start, and in your own words, its pointless. For the sake of arguments, I'm glad we're seeing things eye to eye here.

Mod your games, I'll just play mine and enjoy my exclusives.


At-least within context mine wasn't contradicting itself.

I'll enjoy my exclusives too. (Funny how every platform has them, right?)

 

No yours wasn't a valid point.

The point that you're missing is that you'll never play a game that will completely utilize the full power of a PC. Crisis and a few others are the exception, but dispite that, hardly anyone is able to play those games on ultra settings. So boasting about looks is not a very strong argument.

If developers are willing to cater to ultra performing PCs only, they will likely not see profits at all.

Every platform has their exclusives. Its just a matter if its good or worth mentioning.



deskpro2k3 said:

If developers are willing to cater to ultra performing PCs only, they will likely not see profits at all.


Tell that to Star Citizen, I think they missed that memo.

deskpro2k3 said:

 

No yours wasn't a valid point.


How wasn't it valid? Do elaborate, I'm genuinely interested.

deskpro2k3 said:

 

Every platform has their exclusives. Its just a matter if its good or worth mentioning.


 

Are you implying that PC exclusives aren't worth mentioning?




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Pemalite said:
deskpro2k3 said:

If developers are willing to cater to ultra performing PCs only, they will likely not see profits at all.


Tell that to Star Citizen, I think they missed that memo.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/76653/

Creator of Star Citizen.

Christopher Roberts:
As far as consoles go Star Citizen will never be on the PS3 or Xbox 360. As for the next gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox One, we have NO CURRENT PLANS, but my stance remains open and is consistent with the many interviews I’ve given -

IF the platform holders (Sony & Microsoft) allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them.

 

Knowing Sony being open and not restrictive, I'd say there is a pretty good chance Star Citizen might come to PS4.

For your other questions. I can't elaborate any clearer that.