Exactly.

Well. I don't know if that's true or not.

One of the big arguments I see on this forum is how the new console generation is lagging behind the PC generation.

Im sorry, but your delusional if thats what you think is the case.

The argument being PC's are far ahead of what the new PS4 and XBox One are capable of, and yes your right. But they forget the most important thing, we ARE CONSOLE gamers. 

I have both a XBox one and PS4, and im loving them both. I know they dont compete with a high end PC, but they do one thing and thats the only things they do do, they improve on what we had.

I have been playing Battlefield  4 campaign for the last 2 hours on PS4 and you know what my impression is, its that this 'is mediocre, but the graphics are way better than what I had before (before being PS3)).

PC gamers have this elitist attidute that we should have as good as them on this new console release, good for them. I dont agree, all I expect is an improvement from what I had before, and I get that.

I have a good friend who USED to play alot of console games, but he lost interest and now he has the same delusional attitude as the rest of them.

"why would I want to play that, on the PC it has better FPS/RES/Etc etc etc"

Honestly, I couldnt give a shit, I know how much he has paid on that PC to do that, and f**k me its about 5 times as much as I paid on my PS4/XBox One, and you know what my XBox One  and PS4 does that my previous consoles didnt? improved on EVERYTHING!

You know what your PC does when you put your new pieces in, it IMPROVES ON WHAT IT USED TO DO!

There is no difference at a fundamental value, it imprvoes on what it used to do.

Only at console level, for a more affordable price, and for longer amount of time.

Ask yourself one question, if its going back to 1990 or 2005, whats the one reason you paid money out for when the new console/PC part/Processor/GPU... etc etc etc, to improve on WHAT YOU HAD... its to imrpove on what you had before

Oh but it is true

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Steam-Survey-Most-PC-Gamers-Have-Weaker-PCs-Than-PS4-Xbox-One-58833.html

The RAM and the GPUs are considerably weaker. Its expected really, since since like 40% of PC players play either DOTA, LoL and Minecraft. Not very demanding.

Even EA said that their next engine won't be able to run on most gaming PCs today. 

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2013/06/19/ea-sports-ignite-engine-won-t-work-on-curre/

Not that any PC users care for EA (PC community only cares about Valve and Blizzard, the 2 sole companies keeping PC gaming alive), they just pirate the crap out of their games

I was talking about people lying about specifications.
I already broke down the rest of it.

As for EA and Sports? Well. They never did well on PC anyway.
Not to mention the PC is bound to eventually get all the console exclusives eventually, regardless if Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo likes it or not.

Exactly.

Whaaa...?

Arcade gaming is dead. What are you on about?

And, "  The reason why boils down to why consoles exist in the first place.", was never answered in your post.

I did answer that question, you seem to not have paid enough attention.  The answer is because of the market.  It's harder to sell a PC peripheral than it is to sell a proprietary system.  That is/was a truth.

 "It is also false to believe that any gaming innovation that may come will come to the PC rather than a gaming console.  This is absolutely false."

LOL. That's so untrue.

It is true.  You just saying it's untrue is a bad counter argument to begin with.  Although it is also possible that you may have misinterpreted what I meant by that.  What I was saying is that gaming innovation is easier to market and start with a console than a PC (at least historically, it has.  Currently it's still not there yet either)

"Consoles allowed more innovations to gaming to occur.  "

No one is discussing the merits of console gaming or what it has contributed! Geez man, we're discussing which is superior from a gaming poitn of view.

I made this point to reinforce the history of what consoles did and how it still applies even now to a relatively large degree.

"I understand that now may be in a different position as then, given that PC's are playing a bigger role in gaming"

My gawd man, you think PCs used to not play a major role in gaming? 

PC's played a major role in gaming in the past, yes.  They just weren't nearly as big in the market as consoles were.  It still is that way, regardless of what statistics you may pull up.  

"it is still true that the console market has a lot more chances to make innovations in gaming than the PC market"
 

Again, what? The example of Kinect is prudent; It launched on console, but nearly every facet of its existence that has been worthwhile has been implemented by the PC mod community. Of course the device sucked so they gave up on it. 

I'm not arguing that the PC can't have these peripherals and innovations.  I'm arguing that to make it popular and marketable, it makes much more sense to start it on a console first.

"consoles will disappear and everything will be done by PC's"
I'm not saying that, and anyone who does is, I belive, delusional.

Actually, I am saying that it is possible.

In essence, I disagree with the entire ethos of what you wrote.

Most of what I said isn't debateable.  The way you interpreted it may seem like it is, I feel.