Haha. So true. A new console with all those new games to play and it seems he has never been busier on this site. Maybe he is bored already.

The topics about the cost of the consoles, you were the first to come in (Post 4) and derail it and start talking about Ryse. 

Just to clarify, you think first parties will make Xbox One exclusives look better than Uncharted on PS4?

Lets get this out there. Firstly I dont believe the PS4 is 50% more powerful. I also believe the Xbox one as power but locked in in a different attainable way. Hence the more difficult to program for comments from devs.

All last gen PS3 gamers would to no end use linear titles as evidence of power. When Microsoft really only threw some money at visuals towrards the end of the gen. Look what 343i achieved in a open game with Halo 4. Really showing there was nothing in the hardware between PS3 and 360. Even though graphs and figures at the beginning of that gen would show PS3 in raw power the cell was said to be 200% more powerful in flops over Xenon. Microsoft said then the figures wont tell the story. And they were proved right.

This gen its happening again. But slightly different. Microsoft this time have the more different hardware approach. Theres more little processors on the die. Theres differences all over. IW already said Microsofts dve software wasnt up to speed yet the same as Sony's. So that will actually help alot in development of their next Xbox One game.

This power 50% rubbish is all talk. At least until we are in year 2 or 3 and then if PS4 is destroying Xbox One with graphics then fine. But I highly doubt that based on previous generations where x Sony console is said to be y% more powerful for that to turn out in realtime to be horsesh*t

Yes in relevance to why the cost is higher in making/designing the chip. Its not about raw power. Microsoft went a different route. They have things on the processor PS4 doesnt. They take computations away from the processor that PS4 has to process on the proccessor.

Ryse proves as current graphics king that Microsoft werent talking BS to at least a certain degree. I believe the decision to do hardware different is the reason for the cost.

Im at work. ROFL. hahahahaha.

I wont be on here when Im home. ROFL.

Yeah, Kinect is a pricey peripheral.

Maybe to get Kinect in more homes they will sacrifice profits. I mean break even, not take a big hit for Kinect. Its a very cool piece of technology and it distinguishes them from the competition.

Yes. I thought as Digital Foundry did that Halo 4 was visually in the same ballpark as Uncharted 3. Crysis 3 on 360 beat Uncharted 3 visually. TLOU got more praise for graphics than Uncharted 3. But I thought it looked worse than UC3.

Havent seen Black Tusk Studios yet, they should be good. Remedy can and 343i definately can. 343i is basically devs from Naughty Dog, Crytek, old Bingie and Epic. Like a master race of developers from top studios. Hence why Halo 4 looked so good.

It's funny that this selnor guy is trying to distract everyone from the topic.

Xbox One was clearly rushed. I can't see its price going down in the foreseeable future with the losses it's taking. Even I don't see how it's going to fare without Kinect. It'll be seen as an overpriced hardware that has no real advantage over PS4.

Yes they did say close to the same thing. English comp would help extremly here. And as it turned out Nintendo was wrong. Ontop of which, you dont know what MS is including. They could be including gold subscriptions, a game and a controller