Yeah...how many have not yet upgraded when GT3 came out? How did that turn out? How much bigger was the install base when GT4 launched? How much more has GT4 sold? Ohh wait :-/

Size of the install base doesn't mean everything. First off, people are overestimating the number of active PS3s in the wild. How many died, were replacements, cheap Blu Ray players/multimedia centers, are second or third or more if you're crazy in the household. We don't know, I can say for sure though that there is not a install base of 78 million to buy GT6. With PS4 we can be pretty sure that at least within the first year of launch, the active install base is close to what was sold LTD and consists in majority by fans and hardcore gamers starving to new games and experiences.

Then goes the matter of generational fatigue. It's been 7/8 years already, PS3 is obsolete by now, 2013 had some really amazing games, but we have pretty much seen all that this gen is capable of by 2011. You'd think that because we have "160 million" install base at the moment there shouldn't be any flops this year right? Well when you're not GTA 5 or TLoU to set peoples imagination on fire, it's hard to find spectacular success this year on PS360. I could post a long list of flops and games that underperformed this year but I'm sure you're aware of them. 

Now we have the case of change and improvement. I haven't played any newer build than the GT6 Academy and though I sure it improved a bit I'm not expecting a revolution since, and even though the game is certainly a good improvement over GT5, partially because it had it's fair share of flaws, it feels more like GT5,5, a game that GT5 should have been from the start. Even though I will probably get it day 1, I wouldn't blame any GT5 owner not grabbing it soon if they don't feel it's worth upgrading for 60$. 10 times the performance of PS4 I'm sure could impress much more, and give us a big jump, undoubtably worth the asking price.

And lastly GT6 on PS4 would certainly help improve the consoles adoption rate, here I think we agree. And we have Kazunori, which is pretty surprising to me I won't lie, so openly talking about Gran Turismo on PS4, even as soon as 2014. If you want people to buy GT6 on PS3, at least keep in secret that a superior version of the franchise is release in one year time possibly cause that's just fucking moronic :-/

In a perfect world GT6 would be a launch ps4 title with 40 tracks and 500 premium cars. Too bad reality doesn't work that way. The adoption rate for ps4 is already 100%, sold out for months to come if current demand is to be believed. It doesn't need GT6 at launch. And all those people buying GT6 will still get the ps4 version later. It makes more sense financially.

Yeah...how many have not yet upgraded when GT3 came out? How did that turn out? How much bigger was the install base when GT4 launched? How much more has GT4 sold? Ohh wait :-/

Size of the install base doesn't mean everything. First off, people are overestimating the number of active PS3s in the wild. How many died, were replacements, cheap Blu Ray players/multimedia centers, are second or third or more if you're crazy in the household. We don't know, I can say for sure though that there is not a install base of 78 million to buy GT6. With PS4 we can be pretty sure that at least within the first year of launch, the active install base is close to what was sold LTD and consists in majority by fans and hardcore gamers starving to new games and experiences.

Then goes the matter of generational fatigue. It's been 7/8 years already, PS3 is obsolete by now, 2013 had some really amazing games, but we have pretty much seen all that this gen is capable of by 2011. You'd think that because we have "160 million" install base at the moment there shouldn't be any flops this year right? Well when you're not GTA 5 or TLoU to set peoples imagination on fire, it's hard to find spectacular success this year on PS360. I could post a long list of flops and games that underperformed this year but I'm sure you're aware of them. 

Now we have the case of change and improvement. I haven't played any newer build than the GT6 Academy and though I sure it improved a bit I'm not expecting a revolution since, and even though the game is certainly a good improvement over GT5, partially because it had it's fair share of flaws, it feels more like GT5,5, a game that GT5 should have been from the start. Even though I will probably get it day 1, I wouldn't blame any GT5 owner not grabbing it soon if they don't feel it's worth upgrading for 60$. 10 times the performance of PS4 I'm sure could impress much more, and give us a big jump, undoubtably worth the asking price.

And lastly GT6 on PS4 would certainly help improve the consoles adoption rate, here I think we agree. And we have Kazunori, which is pretty surprising to me I won't lie, so openly talking about Gran Turismo on PS4, even as soon as 2014. If you want people to buy GT6 on PS3, at least keep in secret that a superior version of the franchise is release in one year time possibly cause that's just fucking moronic :-/

Yes GT3 sales, only way anyone can cry GT sales have droped is use that anomaly that was bundled to hell and back.

95% of the gamers in the world are gaming on obsolete hardware, im sure GT6 will get by.  GTA5 sure flooped on this obsolete hardware, so should GT6.

Changes and Improvement, new physics more mods more cars more tracks day and night.  Its only givin us what next gen Forza is not.  

Ps4 needs help to impreove console adoption LMAO really so its not sold out everywhere we got tons of stock on shelves right.

In a world where games last 7 hours we chould whine and cry we will get a better version in a year.  
In a world where people buy the same call of duty madden year after year, we should cry we wil get a brand new next get GT.

Ok there, sure.