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> So good sales justify poorly scored games?

No, Poor score DESERVES poor sales, Like Lair, PS3 owners apparently 'reward' bad games with a "no buy", Lair's sales number is a good indication that PS3 owners are smart enough to look pass 'pretty graphics'.

now, your turn.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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coolestguyever said:
ferret1603 said:
Most of those games are 70+ How are they bad scores? :-s I don't understand what you're getting at.

Well if you want 70+ games then Wii has 49 and PS3 has 87. It doesn't help your case. These are Metacritic ratings I'm talking.

 

http://www.metacritic.com/games/wii/scores/

http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/scores/

 

Doesn't help my case? What case? I still don't understand what you're talking about. You started a thread saying how rubbish million selling Wii games are then posted a list of mainly good scores :-s



This the "quality over quantity argument" us Nintendo fans used to make in favor of the N64 and GC. But overall sales are what crowns the console war winner.



"¿Por qué justo a mí tenía que tocarme ser yo?"

I need to ask, what exactly are you trying to accomplish by showing that Wii has a lot of bad games? Seriously, give me a straight answer. By the way, PS2 had the most bad games of last gen yet was the most highly praised console. Obviously the console with the most games will get the most bad games.



kingofwale said:
> So good sales justify poorly scored games?

No, Poor score DESERVES poor sales, Like Lair, PS3 owners apparently 'reward' bad games with a "no buy", Lair's sales number is a good indication that PS3 owners are smart enough to look pass 'pretty graphics'.

now, your turn.

 Hm, then I wonder how Carnival Games managed to dupe so many people into undeservedly buying it.

 Was it the massive advertising budget that drove its hype to epic levels?

Was it the bundled hardware peripherals that people just had to have?

 Or was it a huge userbase who don't let a bunch of condescending elitists dictate the terms of what fun is to them? Why?! Why won't these people just behave the way we tell them to?!

 

 Perhaps I should compose a list of highly-rated games that 'deserved' to sell a million units and didn't. 



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i think that will change soon,plus it also happend to ps2 where games with low scores were selling well



tag:"reviews only matter for the real hardcore gamer"

Since we know reviewers do not necessarily represent the views of the general public lets look at what happens when we multiply the review score by the games sales:

 

Title

Review

Sales

Sales * Review

Wii Sports

76

19.05

1447.8

Wii Play

60

9.96

597.6

Super Mario Galaxy

97

5.75

557.75

Mario Party 8

63

4.58

288.54

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

95

4.56

433.2

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games

69

3.13

215.97

Wario Ware: Smooth Moves

83

2.23

185.09

Super Paper Mario

85

2.17

184.45

Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree

69

2.03

140.07

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

86

1.68

144.48

Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition

91

1.53

139.23

Mario Strikers Charged

79

1.43

112.97

Wii Fit

78

1.35

105.3

Rayman Raving Rabbids

77

1.27

97.79

Link's Crossbow Training

69

1.19

82.11

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

90

1.17

105.3

Carnival Games

58

1.06

61.48

Red Steel

65

1.04

67.6

Total

 

 

4966.73

 

And now lets look at Sony:

 

 

Title

Review

Sales

Sales * Review

motorstorm

82

2.74

224.68

Resistance: Fall of Man

86

2.33

200.38

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

94

2.3

216.2

Assassins Creed

81

2.19

177.39

Pro Evolution Soccer 2008

74

1.28

94.72

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

81

1.16

93.96

FIFA 08

88

1.13

99.44

Need for Speed: ProStreet

73

1.01

73.73

Total

 

 

1180.5

 

 If we select the top ten and sort them we get:

 

Wii Sports

76

19.05

1447.8

Wii Play

60

9.96

597.6

Super Mario Galaxy

97

5.75

557.75

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

95

4.56

433.2

Mario Party 8

63

4.58

288.54

motorstorm

82

2.74

224.68

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

94

2.3

216.2

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games

69

3.13

215.97

Resistance: Fall of Man

86

2.33

200.38

Wario Ware: Smooth Moves

83

2.23

185.09

 

 

 

 

 



> Hm, then I wonder how Carnival Games managed to dupe so many people into undeservedly buying it.
LOL, okay, let's play Occam's razor, show we?

1. All the reviewers, all the game experts who make a living review games, are wrong about Carnival games.

2. naiive owners (or parents of the owners) who happen to like Wiisport, went out getting a game similar to it, but end up with a MUCH inferior game (comparing to Wiisport)

Oh, how I like Occam's razor. ;)



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

So many bad games yet the Wii is kicking Sony, who had a 100 million advantage in console sales last generation to the ground week after week.

That must make it even more painful for Sony and Sony fans.





I don't think you're going to make it to 1,000 posts coolest guy.



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.