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TheEspionage on 20 November 2013

WiiU just isn't that great for third party games due to it is usually not the best version of the game. THat is why people don't buy them for it. Even X360/PS3 has managed to stay pretty equal with it for the most part outside of Need for Speed.

On the other hand that is some pretty great numbers for PS4.  Contrats sony and all the gamers who bought the PS4! XD



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Cobretti2 on 20 November 2013
oniyide said:
Zkuq said:
oniyide said:
Zkuq said:
It's a new gen and the ports are late by what, a couple of weeks max? Pff, this is ridiculous.

thats fair, but that doesnt explain the sales of games like COD Ghost and AC4 on Wii U versus those of the PS4/xone. Despite the fact that Wii U was already on the market for a year

Third party games don't generally do very well on Nintendo platforms. The userbases are different, there's a lot more competition on Wii U already, and it's a reasonable assumption that the release of a new console so close to the launch of those games made a good number of people wait for the next-gen version when they were going to get a next-gen console anyway (in which case you have to remember that the audience for CoD/AC on PS3/X360 was huge, and not so much on Nintendo consoles).

I agree with just about everything but the bolded. their wasnt anything for most of the year but yet software still didnt move. Hell i would go so far that their isnt much in the way of competition NOW. until Mario comes out. We got Pikmin that didnt light the charts on fire, same with W101, Zelda was a remake and bundled, Sonic, which little people bought. But I guess its audience. People wont like this but maybe some of these 3rd parties would not be wrong to pull support


Agreed.  Games like Zombie U, Sonic, Rayman all shoudl have sold much better considering how they were built on the system from the ground up. 

The ports to a lesser extent I can accept bad sales.

At the same time as you mentioned if the Nintendo games did not light up the chart is is obvious why the 3rd party games didn't either. Kind of sad when some of them have been decent efforts and a few good ports too.



 

 

MANUELF on 20 November 2013

Where did you find the numbers? I cant see them here



outlawauron on 22 November 2013
ElPresidente7 said:
Wonder why OP did not compare Just Dance or Skylanders PS4 / Wii U.

Why would anyone possibly try to defend this?



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outlawauron on 22 November 2013
Seece said:

COD 700k? 70% attach rate?

LOL no.

Embarrassing.

And before you say it, VGC will give XB1 a similar attach rate and it'll be just as bogus.

While I think CoD's attach rate is closer to 50-55%, Twilight Princess had a ~90% attach rate on the Wii at the beginning.



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RazorDragon on 22 November 2013

It's known that third-party games are relegated to the second place when it comes to Nintendo consoles. Now compare first-party sales of both consoles and you'll know why.

3DS released without known Nintendo software to back it up, what happened? SSFIV 3D was the best selling game for quite a long time, and that was quite an old game when it released on the console. Wii U released with NSMBU, which had some crazy attach rates. You can see where that leads. That's also the reason current 3DS third-party releases are also selling much worse, since the console is being supported with Nintendo's heavy hitters. Sony has clearly no first-party presence, so third-parties dominate. MS is similar, but it has a few big hitters, which didn't show up on XOne's release, so it'll also have a big third-party presence on launch.



RazorDragon on 22 November 2013
pezus said:
RazorDragon said:

It's known that third-party games are relegated to the second place when it comes to Nintendo consoles. Now compare first-party sales of both consoles and you'll know why.

3DS released without known Nintendo software to back it up, what happened? SSFIV 3D was the best selling game for quite a long time, and that was quite an old game when it released on the console. Wii U released with NSMBU, which had some crazy attach rates. You can see where that leads. That's also the reason current 3DS third-party releases are also selling much worse, since the console is being supported with Nintendo's heavy hitters. Sony has clearly no first-party presence, so third-parties dominate. MS is similar, but it has a few big hitters, which didn't show up on XOne's release, so it'll also have a big third-party presence on launch.

Excuse me, what?

Killzone sold more than Mario did...

And you act like Nintendo had much presence at WiiU's launch. They practically only had Mario.


Mario is all that's enough to kill third-party sales in a Nintendo console. And I guess I didn't express myself very well, what I meant is that Sony has no first-party presence when you compare it's games sales to third-party ones, PS4 launch shows that very well.