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mhsillen on 17 November 2013
zumnupy10 said:
Soundwave said:
MDMAlliance said:
I'm just going to say that people are being proud for no reason. If launch sales were so important to the success of the console, then Wii U wouldn't be in the trouble it is now. The PS4 can easily fall into the exact same trap the Wii U did. I think Sony fans will actually have something to brag about if it continues past January 2014, otherwise this news means very little. Also, one of the Wii U's several big hitters haven't come out yet (just a few more days).


More likely Nintendo fans are in for some serious crow eating the next 2-3 months.

Sony's audience -- the hardcore gamer is still there, and Sony was smart enough to make a straight forward next-gen machine and sell it at a resonable price. They're being rewarded for making smart moves during the development of the system. 

Nintendo decided to do their own thing again but have been abandoned by the casual audience that drove the Wii to its huge success, and by also alienating the core gamer last gen, they're finding that the hangover from the Wii era is looking real rough. 

That's what made the difference for Sony. 

The way they marketed the console to the hardcore gamer.  

Not sure how many hardcore gamers are around.  What is the definition of "hardcore" gamer?  The vita was also created for so called hardcore gamers and it didn't happen.  ! million is crazy sales



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Lawlight on 17 November 2013
mhsillen said:
zumnupy10 said:
Soundwave said:
MDMAlliance said:
I'm just going to say that people are being proud for no reason. If launch sales were so important to the success of the console, then Wii U wouldn't be in the trouble it is now. The PS4 can easily fall into the exact same trap the Wii U did. I think Sony fans will actually have something to brag about if it continues past January 2014, otherwise this news means very little. Also, one of the Wii U's several big hitters haven't come out yet (just a few more days).


More likely Nintendo fans are in for some serious crow eating the next 2-3 months.

Sony's audience -- the hardcore gamer is still there, and Sony was smart enough to make a straight forward next-gen machine and sell it at a resonable price. They're being rewarded for making smart moves during the development of the system. 

Nintendo decided to do their own thing again but have been abandoned by the casual audience that drove the Wii to its huge success, and by also alienating the core gamer last gen, they're finding that the hangover from the Wii era is looking real rough. 

That's what made the difference for Sony. 

The way they marketed the console to the hardcore gamer.  

Not sure how many hardcore gamers are around.  What is the definition of "hardcore" gamer?  The vita was also created for so called hardcore gamers and it didn't happen.  ! million is crazy sales


Because the core gamers game at home... not on the go.



JoeTheBro on 17 November 2013
ListerOfSmeg said:
I have to laugh at this thread. Man talk about digging for something positive to say...
We got games... Not according to reviews.
We got the most powerful.. Not according to PC.
We got reliability. Not according to all the launch failures....
Ok. Lets pretend consoles always sell at launch day numbers and that only Sony fans group up and buy consoles on launch days and then brag about it like we have a valid point. I mean what else we got? You got me there. what else have we got.

I don't think anyone argued that Sony's diehard wouldn't buy the console but the challenge is, will those with higher standards and no brand loyalty buy a faulty console that charges for online?
1 million launch consoles? Yeah the Wii U did that too.

This gif is perfect for so many posts today.



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oldschoolfool on 17 November 2013

If it keeps up this pace six months in,then I'll be impressed. Everybody's hyping the ps4 to the moon right now. Let's all calm down and see how the ps4 does six months 2 a year in!!!!! Those are the number's I'm interested in.



Metallicube on 17 November 2013

Careful Sony fans, you all remember what happened last time you all get extremely cocky (2006) ;)



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fatslob-:O on 17 November 2013
Metallicube said:
Careful Sony fans, you all remember what happened last time you all get extremely cocky (2006) ;)

I don't think their too worried because afterall sony created an anti-PS3(PS4).



Fifaguy360 on 17 November 2013

wow didn't think it would beat wii U so fast. People were putting estimates at March 2014 when PS4 would surpass WiiU.

Congrats Sony. X1 is going to pull similar numbers I bet.



coolguy on 17 November 2013

Congrats to the ps4



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Soundwave on 17 November 2013
Arius Dion said:
fatslob-:O said:
Arius Dion said:
To be honest, this shows more how pathetically the Wii U has performed moreso than anything else. Though the launch numbers are nice, the are largely irrelevant. I'm more interested in how the console sells past the holiday season. My gut says it will drop off very hard.

How long will the WII U live anyways ? I'll give it that it's life will probably diminish early 2015 seeing as 2014 looks to be the peak. The X1 and PS4 will come hard at the WII U with a ton of 3rd party games to seriously massacre the WII U. 


At this point, Wii U is irrelevant lol. Thanks to Nintendo's own doing. 

 

The he problem is though if you take Wii's contribution out of last gen the picture is bleak. The 8th gen has no Wii. And very rarely do franchises carry over their sales power into the next gen cycle. If cod isn't able to match last gens sales what game will sell these systems? The industry is becoming AAA only and that isn't healthy. 

Well there's still Kinect on XB1.

That said I think consumers tastes are just changing and the game industry is going to have to accomodate consumers and how and where they like to play, rather than trying to dictate. 

Home consoles are becoming more and more for the big budget games you want to play at home on a 50 inch screen. And sports/racing games too. 

The more mid-tier/low-tier budget games, cartoony games, etc. ... I think consumers are saying that type of gaming is what they want on their phone/tablet for a lower price. 

Unfortunately that's not good for Nintendo. Sony/MS can weather this change better because they have the core audience that loves their shooters, action games, racing sims, sports games, etc. I think MS is smart to try and create a console that ties to the television and does things like the NFL Football services and all that. 



zumnupy10 on 18 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:
Metallicube said:
Careful Sony fans, you all remember what happened last time you all get extremely cocky (2006) ;)

I don't think their too worried because afterall sony created an anti-PS3(PS4).


Pretty much this.