Boohoo youve seen how your argument is wrong and now your running away. Me and Permalite are working on a definition for an 8th gen engine and its coming along quite nicely so hah, your point sucks and you cant big up to that fact. 

Hahahaha. The ps4 and xb1 have already sold about 25% of what the wiiu has in under a month. The wiiu may have won the worst console sales of the decade award and thats about it. 

Growing yearly sales were because of the decreasing price along with more games

I agree that hardcore consoles sell well during the entire generation, that's why, even with a successful launch, there will be a steep decrease after the holidays (like core games sales have a steep decrease after launch), and a slow increase in the coming years, that's why i said Ps3/Xbox360 trend over the coming years

people declare Ps4/XboxONE god consoles and doom the WiiU, but is not the case

Ps4/XboxONE probably won't sell well after holidays and 2014 (very high price, only a few games)

WiiU is pretty hard to predict, could even take off once the price gets lower and more Nintendo games come out, largely depends on families really, they may miss the Wii fun they had and want to buy the new stuff when it gets cheaper?

a reason Wii had huge sales the first 2 years is the low price, so it is important, similar case for 3DS

so, doom and praise threads are pretty much pointless at this time

Why do you just have to direct this to a Wii U failure post? I said what has only been true. I don't go buying consoles if the games suck butt on it just because. I'll get a PS4 when the RPGs come out. The Wii U might not be as powerful but it has a creative edge that no other company can match and you can see that with titles like SM3DW. I don't care who wins this gen as long as I get good clean games.

What creative edge lol sony have snapped up all the good indie developers. SM3DW ooo another 3d mario just what ive been wanting, no wait that was done on the n64. 

If you want more of the same, stick with nintendo, if you want a htpc, go for the xb1, if you want an 8th gen games console, go for the ps4.

Oh? You've admitted your definition was wrong?

Glad to see you came around to this side of things in the end.

And Call of Duty isn't more of the same? And even so, who gives a crap. If you have a working formula, why change it? Give me an example of a game that doesn't use a concept from Nintendo and I'll kill myself. Everything was done on the NES, now everything is just a descendant of that.

Not really. The Wii U drought was big not because of its general lack of games, but lack of notable and highly anticipated titles. Between the holiday launch "window" and the release of Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101 (a span of nearly 9 months), the Wii U had hardly any notable releases except for Lego City Undercover and a port of MH3.

In the first 3-4 months of '14, XB1 and PS4 will be getting games like Thief, Watchdogs, Titanfall, Elder Scrolls Online, Infamous Second son, etc., and within the first half of the year will be getting even more highly anticipated games like Destiny and potentially Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes if it doesn't get delayed.

More games I think every console has along the time As for the price cuts, I don't believe so. The Wii had great sales without any price cut (2006-2008) and decreasing sales when it became cheaper and heavily bundled with games and accessories (2009-2013).

I doubt there will be a steep decrease (greater than the usual) after the holidays. In what basis do you claim that? Very high price can't be a factor simply because neither XOne nor PS4 have such prices. Remember X360 came at 400 euros (by now that would be around 500 euros) and PS3 came at 600 euros (by now that would be more than 700 euros). Now you have XOne for the same 500 euros (but Kinect is included) and PS4 for almost a half of PS3's launch price. Those are very high prices?! The "few games" thing will hardly be a factor too. It's true that PS4 and XOne came earlier than expected but the devs have rapidly shifted their resources to both consoles and none of them will be hard to work with (like the PS3 was) so I don't expect big delays in the games to come.

As for the god consoles vs the doomed Wii U, I understand who has that view. Wii U is likely to be like Wii in terms of life-cycle weekly market share: greater at the beginning, smaller at the middle of the generation and eventually an early death. So if the console is already low at the beginning, what can we expect about it's future? Miserable sales in the next 2 years? Residual sales after 3 or 4 years?

Wrong as in needed refinining not wrong as in it cant be done so soon your argument will be shit outta luck.