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Lawlight on 07 November 2013
STRYKIE said:
Lawlight said:
STRYKIE said:
By the way, it seems some people aren't aware of this, but the PS2 was officially discontinued last year, and most likely hadn't been in production for a while anyway, I don't think those last remaining units were sold last year, maybe it was undertracked all along.

But what do I know? 140m of those units only sold because it was bundled with phone contracts, was a cheap DVD player, and was firmly isolated in having disc drive idiosyncrasies. Meanwhile, the PS3 somehow got less unreliable.


It was discontinued in January of this year. These numbers stop at March 2013.

And lol at that last part. Good one, mate.

I'm pretty sure SCEA and SCEE were just a few weeks late announcing the discontinuation, obviously we can't discount leftover stock (I still see brand new 9000 series models floating around in considerable quantities), but the PS1 for example had their last units manufactured in 2004, while the platform itself wasn't discontinued per se until 2006. I could be wrong, all I'm saying it that announcements aren't necessarily always real-time.

And heh, just doing what I can for the community. But honestly, the premise of how it sold on the basis of being a DVD player was always silly. I remember watching some documentary about the Dreamcast supposedly doing really well in Japan, which couldn't possibly be more wrong, and how the only reason it fell short was because of the PS2, the 1000 series models weren't able to play DVD movies at all (although it obviously still supported DVD-ROM for games that used the format) until an encryption pack was released shortly before the US/EU launch.


So, they were going to discontinue a console that sold 14.8M from April 2006 to March 2007. lol, ok...



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Lawlight on 07 November 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP isn't a console.

Also, you're saying that Sony started developing God of War II in Nov/Dec 2006 for released in March 2007 when they realised that the PS3 wasn't doing as well as they wanted?


No they released it so they could rerelease it later and charge you 30$ for basically bumping up the resolution


Damn, son - you're going all out.



STRYKIE on 07 November 2013
Lawlight said:
STRYKIE said:
Lawlight said:
STRYKIE said:
By the way, it seems some people aren't aware of this, but the PS2 was officially discontinued last year, and most likely hadn't been in production for a while anyway, I don't think those last remaining units were sold last year, maybe it was undertracked all along.

But what do I know? 140m of those units only sold because it was bundled with phone contracts, was a cheap DVD player, and was firmly isolated in having disc drive idiosyncrasies. Meanwhile, the PS3 somehow got less unreliable.


It was discontinued in January of this year. These numbers stop at March 2013.

And lol at that last part. Good one, mate.

I'm pretty sure SCEA and SCEE were just a few weeks late announcing the discontinuation, obviously we can't discount leftover stock (I still see brand new 9000 series models floating around in considerable quantities), but the PS1 for example had their last units manufactured in 2004, while the platform itself wasn't discontinued per se until 2006. I could be wrong, all I'm saying it that announcements aren't necessarily always real-time.

And heh, just doing what I can for the community. But honestly, the premise of how it sold on the basis of being a DVD player was always silly. I remember watching some documentary about the Dreamcast supposedly doing really well in Japan, which couldn't possibly be more wrong, and how the only reason it fell short was because of the PS2, the 1000 series models weren't able to play DVD movies at all (although it obviously still supported DVD-ROM for games that used the format) until an encryption pack was released shortly before the US/EU launch.


So, they were going to discontinue a console that sold 14.8M from April 2006 to March 2007. lol, ok...

Don't remember saying or implying this, unless you replied to the wrong guy?



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NYANKS on 07 November 2013

Nice to know the PS2 did stay ahead of the DS, as many here didn't want to accept it.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 07 November 2013
Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP isn't a console.

Also, you're saying that Sony started developing God of War II in Nov/Dec 2006 for released in March 2007 when they realised that the PS3 wasn't doing as well as they wanted?


No they released it so they could rerelease it later and charge you 30$ for basically bumping up the resolution


Damn, son - you're going all out.


Because y'all are easily fooled into being Slaves to Brittney and the engine of her machine



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Lawlight on 07 November 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP isn't a console.

Also, you're saying that Sony started developing God of War II in Nov/Dec 2006 for released in March 2007 when they realised that the PS3 wasn't doing as well as they wanted?


No they released it so they could rerelease it later and charge you 30$ for basically bumping up the resolution


Damn, son - you're going all out.


Because y'all are easily fooled into being Slaves to Brittney and the engine of her machine


Ok, bro...



STRYKIE on 07 November 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP isn't a console.

Also, you're saying that Sony started developing God of War II in Nov/Dec 2006 for released in March 2007 when they realised that the PS3 wasn't doing as well as they wanted?


No they released it so they could rerelease it later and charge you 30$ for basically bumping up the resolution


This is also considering the GOW games were the #1 requested re-releases by a landslide back then. I think Sony just realized how well the resulting collection was doing and milked the whole "HD classics" line out of it. I could care less personally, the only one that actually felt like a true remaster to me was the Sly Trilogy. 

Keep in mind, the current figureheads at Sony aren't quite as enthusiastic about backwards compatibility as Ken Kutaragi was. They most likely kept PS1 BC because it had zero bearing on manufacturing costs, where as the PS2 chipset was the single most expensive feature they could remove.



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Kane1389 on 07 November 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Kane1389 said:
JazzB1987 said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
DS almost sold that much I think


When you think about how many phat PS2's died because of the cheap drive  you realize that a ton of PS2s were just bought to replace broken ones, millions bought a PS2 solely as a super cheap DVD player etc. then basically the DS already won in  "bought for gaming" and "bought because wanted   not had to(replace old one)" terms.


Btw Does anyone know specifics about all those  "PS2 free with phone contracts"?

Does the PS2 count as sold when the"phone contract company" gets the PS2 (since they buy it?) or is it just sold when a customer signed the contract and gets the console?  In Europe millions of PS2s were bundled with phone contracts. (I got my slim that way and it still works like a charm had to replace my broken PHAT that died due to DISK READ ERROR bullshit)

PS2 sold 40M+ when DVDs were already dirt cheap and disk reading error has already been fixed. The reason why PS2 outsold DS (and it keeps on selling while the DS is completly dead) is because Sony knows how to support their consoles for a long time + PS2 selling for cheap in developing markets.

Oh there's also undisputedly the best library of games on any system ever made.

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP never got much suppport even before the vita, thanks to its rampant piracy killing the software sales. 

I was talking about distribution, marketing and opening up to new markets. Unlike Nintendo, Sony systems keep selling waay after their successors come out. Hell, even PSP is about to outsell GBA with absolutely no worthwile games releasing



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 07 November 2013

The GBA had a 3 year life span. The third parties moved on to the DS.



MegaDrive08 on 07 November 2013

It's a matter of opinion to if it has the best game library of all time, I don't think it has but that's my opinion, PS1 was better