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Lawlight said:

Lafiel, you're wrong. The more PS3s sold in October means less PS3s sold in FY 2012 which means more PS2s sold. Think about it - the numbers are all there. 158.6M is the least the PS2 sold. We have to add how many units the PS3 sold to the 158.6M to get the actual PS2 number.

Yea, yea I realized that like 2 minutes after I quoted it and deleted that part of my post.

I'm surprised you caught my post when that part was still up.



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Lafiel said:
Lawlight said:

Lafiel, you're wrong. The more PS3s sold in October means less PS3s sold in FY 2012 which means more PS2s sold. Think about it - the numbers are all there. 158.6M is the least the PS2 sold. We have to add how many units the PS3 sold to the 158.6M to get the actual PS2 number.

Yea, yea I realized that like 2 minutes after I quoted it and deleted that part of my post.

I'm surprised you caught my post when that part was still up.

I thought it was odd that when I quoted you I could not see that part of the post :D



By the way, it seems some people aren't aware of this, but the PS2 was officially discontinued last year, and most likely hadn't been in production for a while anyway, I don't think those last remaining units were sold last year, maybe it was undertracked all along.

But what do I know? 140m of those units only sold because it was bundled with phone contracts, was a cheap DVD player, and was firmly isolated in having disc drive idiosyncrasies. Meanwhile, the PS3 somehow got less unreliable.



STRYKIE said:
By the way, it seems some people aren't aware of this, but the PS2 was officially discontinued last year, and most likely hadn't been in production for a while anyway, I don't think those last remaining units were sold last year, maybe it was undertracked all along.

But what do I know? 140m of those units only sold because it was bundled with phone contracts, was a cheap DVD player, and was firmly isolated in having disc drive idiosyncrasies. Meanwhile, the PS3 somehow got less unreliable.


It was discontinued in January of this year. These numbers stop at March 2013.

And lol at that last part. Good one, mate.



Kane1389 said:
JazzB1987 said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
DS almost sold that much I think


When you think about how many phat PS2's died because of the cheap drive  you realize that a ton of PS2s were just bought to replace broken ones, millions bought a PS2 solely as a super cheap DVD player etc. then basically the DS already won in  "bought for gaming" and "bought because wanted   not had to(replace old one)" terms.


Btw Does anyone know specifics about all those  "PS2 free with phone contracts"?

Does the PS2 count as sold when the"phone contract company" gets the PS2 (since they buy it?) or is it just sold when a customer signed the contract and gets the console?  In Europe millions of PS2s were bundled with phone contracts. (I got my slim that way and it still works like a charm had to replace my broken PHAT that died due to DISK READ ERROR bullshit)


PS2 sold 40M+ when DVDs were already dirt cheap and disk reading error has already been fixed. The reason why PS2 outsold DS (and it keeps on selling while the DS is completly dead) is because Sony knows how to support their consoles for a long time + PS2 selling for cheap in developing markets.

Oh there's also undisputedly the best library of games on any system ever made.

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
DS almost sold that much I think


DS is NOT a console. Er.Muh.Gawd.

Handheld. 

HANDHELD.

HAAANNNDD. HHEEEELLLLD.



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP isn't a console.

Also, you're saying that Sony started developing God of War II in Nov/Dec 2006 for released in March 2007 when they realised that the PS3 wasn't doing as well as they wanted?



Lawlight said:
STRYKIE said:
By the way, it seems some people aren't aware of this, but the PS2 was officially discontinued last year, and most likely hadn't been in production for a while anyway, I don't think those last remaining units were sold last year, maybe it was undertracked all along.

But what do I know? 140m of those units only sold because it was bundled with phone contracts, was a cheap DVD player, and was firmly isolated in having disc drive idiosyncrasies. Meanwhile, the PS3 somehow got less unreliable.


It was discontinued in January of this year. These numbers stop at March 2013.

And lol at that last part. Good one, mate.

I'm pretty sure SCEA and SCEE were just a few weeks late announcing the discontinuation, obviously we can't discount leftover stock (I still see brand new 9000 series models floating around in considerable quantities), but the PS1 for example had their last units manufactured in 2004, while the platform itself wasn't discontinued per se until 2006. I could be wrong, all I'm saying it that announcements aren't necessarily always real-time.

And heh, just doing what I can for the community. But honestly, the premise of how it sold on the basis of being a DVD player was always silly. I remember watching some documentary about the Dreamcast supposedly doing really well in Japan, which couldn't possibly be more wrong, and how the only reason it fell short was because of the PS2, the 1000 series models weren't able to play DVD movies at all (although it obviously still supported DVD-ROM for games that used the format) until an encryption pack was released shortly before the US/EU launch.



Kane1389 said:
JazzB1987 said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
DS almost sold that much I think


When you think about how many phat PS2's died because of the cheap drive  you realize that a ton of PS2s were just bought to replace broken ones, millions bought a PS2 solely as a super cheap DVD player etc. then basically the DS already won in  "bought for gaming" and "bought because wanted   not had to(replace old one)" terms.


Btw Does anyone know specifics about all those  "PS2 free with phone contracts"?

Does the PS2 count as sold when the"phone contract company" gets the PS2 (since they buy it?) or is it just sold when a customer signed the contract and gets the console?  In Europe millions of PS2s were bundled with phone contracts. (I got my slim that way and it still works like a charm had to replace my broken PHAT that died due to DISK READ ERROR bullshit)


PS2 sold 40M+ when DVDs were already dirt cheap and disk reading error has already been fixed. The reason why PS2 outsold DS (and it keeps on selling while the DS is completly dead) is because Sony knows how to support their consoles for a long time + PS2 selling for cheap in developing markets.

Oh there's also undisputedly the best library of games on any system ever made.





Lawlight said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

I dont understand why people liek to insinuate this. PSP never got any sony support after the Vita.

No the PS2 only saw support because the PS3 was hemmoraghing cash like a mother fucker until 2010. Then they got the device rolling.

PSP isn't a console.

Also, you're saying that Sony started developing God of War II in Nov/Dec 2006 for released in March 2007 when they realised that the PS3 wasn't doing as well as they wanted?


No they released it so they could rerelease it later and charge you 30$ for basically bumping up the resolution