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So what is the one thing the 3DS has that the Vita doesn't?  A consistant flow of new games.  Indies are nice and all, but they will have little to no impact on sales, it needs actual retail games.  I'm not gonna say Sony needs to start making a ton of Vita games because all their studios are busy with the PS4 and I have no idea how many are capable of developing both at the same time, but seriously all Sony needs to do is start localizing the dozens of Vita games in Japan and they will get that consistant flow of games.  

For anyone saying Japanese games will not make a difference look at the highest selling games on the Vita, the 4th highest selling is a JRPG, Persona 4, only beaten by big exclusives Uncharted, CoD and AC.  If you look at the list these multiplatform games sell terible with the exception of a few and the JRPGs are selling pretty well and yet Sony's Third Party Production Team isn't focusing on localizing JRPGs, they are getting more multiplatform games in the form of Borderlands 2...

When you look at the PSP one of the main reasons to buy it was the huge liabrary of JRPGs that got localized and now Sony has gone in the complete opposite direction.  Localizing these games will cost very little to Sony and it makes no sense that they are not doing it.  So what do you guys think?



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The same should be said for the 3DS. Sony and Nintendo have both done an appalling job of bringing Japanese titles over.



I think you really overestimate the importance of Japanese games for the Western audience, where the Vita struggles the most. It already has a lot of different kinds from bigger titles to totally niche stuff that has been localised and it didn't light up the charts.
You say the Persona 4 Golden is the 4th best selling game on the Vita, that's true. But without Japanese sales how high would it be?



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Vita need good port of Fifa,gta,metal gear solid,yearly Call of duty,tekken,Grand Turismo those gamwe will save Vita if they will exist one date.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

eFKac said:
I think you really overestimate the importance of Japanese games for the Western audience, where the Vita struggles the most. It already has a lot of different kinds from bigger titles to totally niche stuff that has been localised and it didn't light up the charts.
You say the Persona 4 Golden is the 4th best selling game on the Vita, that's true. But without Japanese sales how high would it be?

So you think continuing with these multiplatform games is the better way to go with Sony's Third Party Production team?  Also when you look at NA game sales with the exception of these huge AAA games like Uncharted the Japanese games are pretty much the bulk of the sales.  Like I said in the OP Sony is pretty much committed to the PS4 atm so they can't make AAA after AAA game for the Vita so I think this is the best option.



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eFKac said:
I think you really overestimate the importance of Japanese games for the Western audience, where the Vita struggles the most. It already has a lot of different kinds from bigger titles to totally niche stuff that has been localised and it didn't light up the charts.
You say the Persona 4 Golden is the 4th best selling game on the Vita, that's true. But without Japanese sales how high would it be?

Ragnarok Odyssey sucks and it's sold just as many copies in the west as it has in Japan. Persona 4 The Golden has sold 210,000 in the west while selling 270,000 in Japan.  Both Gravity Rush and Metal Gear Solid HD Collection sold over twice as much in the west than they did in Japan.  Disgaea 3 has sold about the same(slightly more in the west.)  Those are just a few examples.

Really.  The difference in sales between Japanese releases on the Vita really aren't that different.  It atleast proves that people in the west do buy Vita games, sometimes, a lot of the time if you add western releases, more than the same games sell in Japan.



What Sony needs to save the Vita is dedication... more than anything else. I don't think JRPGs would save the Vita. Look at Tales of, and all those other niche games. What it needs are exclusives from Sony's BIG franchise. Like an exclusive Infamous, God of War, Gran Turismo. It also needs big name franchises from key 3rd parties. Monster Hunter was huge on PSP, but that ship may be gone. What about GTA? Final Fantasy? It mainly needs support.



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Nintendo is localizing a ton of 3rd party Japanese 3DS games.

They mention this some months ago.

I personally can't wait to see what Japanese 3DS 3rd party games Nintendo starts localizing left & right like crazy.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
eFKac said:
I think you really overestimate the importance of Japanese games for the Western audience, where the Vitagór ruggles the most. It already has a lot of different kinds from bigger titles to totally niche stuff that has been localised and it didn't light up the charts.
You say the Persona 4 Golden is the 4th best selling game on the Vita, that's true. But without Japanese sales how high would it be?

So you think continuing with these multiplatform games is the better way to go with Sony's Third Party Production team?  Also when you look at NA game sales with the exception of these huge AAA games like Uncharted the Japanese games are pretty much the bulk of the sales.  Like I said in the OP Sony is pretty much committed to the PS4 atm so they can't make AAA after AAA game for the Vita so I think this is the best option.


Like how they are doing it? Like giving us some random ports of old games like Spider Man (when the second one just got announced without Vita as a platform) or BL2? No that won't help. If they could get a steady stream of the biggest multiplat franchises with some Vita specific functions every year (sports, racing, Ass Creed, CoD, whatever comes out this generation) then I could see that definitely helping the Vita, being finally a good option to choose for gaming outside of your home. We know that this won't happen though. 

Overall I think that it is a lose-lose situation and Vita is in a hole so deep that only a scenario that small44 came up with could really make things up for the Vita in the West. So maybe yeah localising the Japanese stuff is the better choice all things considered, cause it's better to keep your niche but dedicated audience happy than not having a dedicated audience at all. Having random gamers who might buy it for a couple of exclusives and sell the device afterwards. But localising Japanese games definitely won't make Vita a success in the West imo.



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kupomogli said:
eFKac said:
I think you really overestimate the importance of Japanese games for the Western audience, where the Vita struggles the most. It already has a lot of different kinds from biggermąkę les to totally niche stuff that has been localised and it didn't light up the charts.
You say the Persona 4 Golden is the 4th best selling game on the Vita, that's true. But without Japanese sales how high would it be?

Ragnarok Odyssey sucks and it's sold just as many copies in the west as it has in Japan. Persona 4 The Golden has sold 210,000 in the west while selling 270,000 in Japan.  Both Gravity Rush and Metal Gear Solid HD Collection sold over twice as much in the west than they did in Japan.  Disgaea 3 has sold about the same(slightly more in the west.)  Those are just a few examples.

Really.  The difference in sales between Japanese releases on the Vita really aren't that different.  It atleast proves that people in the west do buy Vita games, sometimes, a lot of the time if you add western releases, more than the same games sell in Japan.


That was not my point. I'm not saying that those games sold poorly compared to sales in Japan. What I'm saying is, no Japanese game outsold Resistance Burning Skies.

If it's not Final Fantasy, it will not make a substantial difference in the fate of Vita in the West. Yearly port of Call of Duty or preferably a slightly changed version of it, with a bundle has a much better chance.



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