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I haven't mentioned that there's no advertising for the system what so ever, where as we see a new Xbox One/PS4 commercial almost daily.

It just seems like Nintendo wants the Wii U to fail, it's the only way to explain all of these boneheaded decisions.



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HikenNoAce said:
Salnax said:
HikenNoAce said:
Doesn't matter what Edge thinks, the WiiU won't do well.


Why not? The big exclusive games are coming, the price is lower than the competition, and it has a better established existing library. I doubt it will crush the competition, but why won't it at least do decently?


Because the days of the casuals are over.


Sony still banking on Move and MS still banking on Kinect (so much so that they're packing it in with their new console) would like to have a word with you.

Nice trolling though.



HikenNoAce said:
Salnax said:
HikenNoAce said:
Doesn't matter what Edge thinks, the WiiU won't do well.


Why not? The big exclusive games are coming, the price is lower than the competition, and it has a better established existing library. I doubt it will crush the competition, but why won't it at least do decently?


Because the days of the casuals are over.

I like over generalizing too



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HikenNoAce said:
Salnax said:
HikenNoAce said:
Doesn't matter what Edge thinks, the WiiU won't do well.


Why not? The big exclusive games are coming, the price is lower than the competition, and it has a better established existing library. I doubt it will crush the competition, but why won't it at least do decently?


Because the days of the casuals are over.

Piss poor trolling response. Don't pay attention to this guy.



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Noctis23 said:
Who is going to buy the console other than hardcore Nintendo fans?

No sports games and no decent online community/games for so called "dudebros"

Casual aren't paying $300 just play a new Wii Sports or Wii Fit

The graphics are a little better than current gen, it lacks decent built in storage, (that's an extra $50-70 if you want to download anything) the online play isn't up to snuff, it lacks 3rd party support, it doesn't have DVD/Blu-ray playback, and it lacks a value system like PS Plus or Games for Gold.

Why would anyone (other than Nintendo die-hards) buy this console over the four that will be available this holiday? The value just isn't there.

Wow!! I am impressed. Someone who knocks the wii u console with style. Well done.

But you answered the question in your very first sentence.  Pretty much forget about the casuals. Those that got caught up in the wii hype are long gone.

I said it before and I say it again, Nintendo fans is what will keep the wii u alive and the hope is that Nintendo can maintain the ones they got now and find a whole lot of new ones. I believe this can be accomplished if Nintendo fans and Nintendo themselves are realistic with their expectations regarding the lifetime wii u sales figures.

It doesn't have to match the PS4 in sales, it just have to sell enough to sustain itself ( that means ultimately not taking a lost ).

Every single point you made is pretty valid if you do a flat comparison between the systems. But Nintendo can really never be compare that way both with the wii or now the wii u.

It's a system pretty much in it's own bubble. You either want to play what they produce or you don't. The trick is getting enough customers that do.

In your other posts regarding marketing I agree.



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justinian said:
Noctis23 said:
Who is going to buy the console other than hardcore Nintendo fans?

No sports games and no decent online community/games for so called "dudebros"

Casual aren't paying $300 just play a new Wii Sports or Wii Fit

The graphics are a little better than current gen, it lacks decent built in storage, (that's an extra $50-70 if you want to download anything) the online play isn't up to snuff, it lacks 3rd party support, it doesn't have DVD/Blu-ray playback, and it lacks a value system like PS Plus or Games for Gold.

Why would anyone (other than Nintendo die-hards) buy this console over the four that will be available this holiday? The value just isn't there.

Wow!! I am impressed. Someone who knocks the wii u console with style. Well done.

But you answered the question in your very first sentence.  Pretty much forget about the casuals. Those that got caught up in the wii hype are long gone.

I said it before and I say it again, Nintendo fans is what will keep the wii u alive and the hope is that Nintendo can maintain the ones they got now and find a whole lot of new ones. I believe this can be accomplished if Nintendo fans and Nintendo themselves are realistic with their expectations regarding the lifetime wii u sales figures.

It doesn't have to match the PS4 in sales, it just have to sell enough to sustain itself ( that means ultimately not taking a lost ).

Every single point you made is pretty valid if you do a flat comparison between the systems. But Nintendo can really never be compare that way both with the wii or now the wii u.

It's a system pretty much in it's own bubble. You either want to play what they produce or you don't. The trick is getting enough customers that do.

In your other posts regarding marketing I agree.

I think what you're saying maybe true, only if they can get the first party titles out on time. I think not having Mario Kart or DK out this holiday is going to hurt.

 

Lol I bought one at launch hoping to play some first party games relatively early in it's life cycle. Almost a year later, nothing has really piqued my interest, other than X and Smash. (coming out mid-late next year)

 

I might pick up 3D World next month though.





@Noctis23.
Sorry for not quoting you, but it would be a hassle to do it on IE.

Don`t know about the States, but in UK and Germany, there is a good marketing push going on.
In the UK, Tesco is notyfing customers about Wii U: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687141&page=6

In Germany, Nintendo has teemed up again with Steffi Graf and Andre Agassi to promote Wii Fit U and Wii Party U.

Campaigns in the States will start eventually.
If i`m not mistaken Nintendo will be taking part of the 100 day countdown to the Olympics in New York.



 

DélioPT said:
@Noctis23.
Sorry for not quoting you, but it would be a hassle to do it on IE.

Don`t know about the States, but in UK and Germany, there is a good marketing push going on.
In the UK, Tesco is notyfing customers about Wii U: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687141&page=6

In Germany, Nintendo has teemed up again with Steffi Graf and Andre Agassi to promote Wii Fit U and Wii Party U.

Campaigns in the States will start eventually.
If i`m not mistaken Nintendo will be taking part of the 100 day countdown to the Olympics in New York.

 

It should've started months ago, even last month to promote the price cut and WWHD.

The rest of the stuff you mention won't hurt, but I don't know if it will be enough to compete this holiday.





Noctis23 said:
justinian said:

I think what you're saying maybe true, only if they can get the first party titles out on time. I think not having Mario Kart or DK out this holiday is going to hurt.

 

Lol I bought one at launch hoping to play some first party games relatively early in it's life cycle. Almost a year later, nothing has really piqued my interest, other than X and Smash. (coming out mid-late next year)

 

I might pick up 3D World next month though.



You may be right about not having a Mario Kart for the holidays. On the other hand it might be good thing. If I was the MD of Nintendo would I want my biggest game going up against the Xbone, PS4 and all the rest at the same time? It's a tough one but I maybe would let all the dust settle, let the customers recoup some money from all their christmas spending and then hit them with it over easter when there would hopefully be less for it to compete against.

Who knows, only time will tell if it was a bad decision or otherwise.

There you go, you might pick up SM3DW next month. Are you a Nintendo die hard fan? Because if you are not you still bought the system. A few million like you and Nintendo will be fine.



Noctis23 said:
Who is going to buy the console other than hardcore Nintendo fans?

No sports games and no decent online community/games for so called "dudebros"

Casual aren't paying $300 just play a new Wii Sports or Wii Fit

The graphics are a little better than current gen, it lacks decent built in storage, (that's an extra $50-70 if you want to download anything) the online play isn't up to snuff, it lacks 3rd party support, it doesn't have DVD/Blu-ray playback, and it lacks a value system like PS Plus or Games for Gold.

Why would anyone (other than Nintendo die-hards) buy this console over the four that will be available this holiday? The value just isn't there.

Built in storage isnt important unless your bestheda and you want your games installed so they run properly. 50$ for a

Club Nintendo is a FREE reward system, their is a BULK of software that appeals to many, your online thing is a bunch of hoobala, the only thing lacking is a unified account system across Nintendo products. (which coincedentally does have an infrastructure set up in place via club nintendo but its not fully baked)

The value is there, you however are just too blind to see it. Its got 3rd party support from those who sold the most on the Wii, whether they stay or not remains to be seen

The graphics are not the selling point and "a little better than current gen" is ridiculous.

When will you people learn its all about the software? What are indies to you? They are the future of 3rd party support. If you want all the AAA games the industry has on offer you can get a PC for 700$ and spend way less than on a console.