AstroGamer said: Now that I think about it more, there is not exactly a huge difference between devout believers of creationism and evolution. They just both require faith. One requires faith in an ancient book and the other requires faith in that scientists are not bullshitting you. Simply because it is reported by a scientist or experts, many people will just believe. Heck, if a bunch of scientists decided to announce that ingesting mercury will give you stronger muscles with a bunch of seemingly realistic figures, there is not many who wouldn't believe them. I'm sure scientists fudge their numbers a little all the time. I'm not saying that you shouldn't believe in anything, I'm just saying do not take any source for an absolute truth |
There is a really, really huge issue with that comment: no scientist would ever actually do that.
Science, by virtue of what it is, requires proof and study in order to be considered credible in the scientific theory. There is no "blind faith" when it comes to believing what a scientist says about his observations. I'm sorry, but this is a silly argument.
So, let me help you a bit: while your example is poor, I can see what you are getting at, and in a MUCH BROADER sense, you are correct: even science requires "faith". Albeit, I would argue it is a different kind of faith.
Whereas religion is faith without evidence, faith in scripture, faith in tradition, science is faith in reality. In order for all of science to mean anything, scientists have to have faith that what they observe is, in fact, actually being observed. They have to have faith that the way humanity is able to perceive reality is enough to deduct some sort of scientific "truth".
For instance, for all we know we exist in a simulated reality. Or everything that science observes is an elaborate allusion created by some mean God needlessly testing our faith. Even scientist requires some measure of faith, and this is why I find ardent aetheists who believe that the way they perceive the world to be the one and only true way to see it is rather arrogant. Fact is, our ability to observe is limited by what we are, and there is only so much we will be able to understand about the world around us.
The issue with trying to equate this with religious faith, though, is that questioning faith in proven scientific theories (evolution, gravity, etc) is tantamount to asking "Yes, that wall is blue. But is it REALLY blue, or is that just how I perceive it?" It requires questioning whether everything we observe is actually how it is.
Having faith in religion just involves having faith in stories and legends and miracles where little evidence exists. Whereas science has a lot of consensus around basic theories that are backed by a lot of evidence and have become the foundation of many scientific discoveries and disciplines (again, evolution & gravity) there is little consensus in religion. Some in the Christian faith want to take the Bible as literal history. The issue with that is that the progenitors of the Old Testament, the Jews (of which I am one, ethnically) did not write the Tanakh (Old Testament) to be taken literally. On top of that, when the Tanakh was translated into the Old Testament, there were many translation errors that completely changed the meaning of some passages.
Science relies on current observations of existing evidence, and it has become the foundation of our society. Religion relies on old, vague texts written, translated and reshaped by MEN. Though there is certainly evidence that some things recorded in these text happened, we only have proof of the mundane. Just because we found Troy doesn't mean that everything in the Homer's "The Odyssey" happened. There is no evidence of a God, or of the miracles. That lack of evidence, that lack of capability to observe, is the key difference between science and religin. And though I think the two can easily co-exist, you cannot compare faith in one to faith in the other.