Fixed. Wii U library so far is 100% current gen, that's why people don't buy it - it's not an upgrade when compared to what they already have and have had for the lat 7 years. I haven't seen anything on Wii U that would say "next gen" to me. X is probably gonna be first such game, but when is it going to come out? In a year? Maybe. PS4 will be a better choice both in the near and far future - Sony and 3rd parties will see to it. Just look at the launch lineup and don't lie to yourself. PS4 will have more games than Wii U has in short time. Nintendo knows they messed up, they know they underestimated how powerful PS4 is going to be and made Wii U too weak. Now they try to go for the casuals with bundles like this one, cause they know they can't compete with PS4 - something they were hoping they'd be able to do.

casual? again? what world do you live in? nintendo always cared about making quality titles and that's what they always did.

Haters gonna hate, haters gonna hate. You can show them the future, yet they still live in the past. This is not for you haters, this is for the masses, for the only people that can turn this around without hating, the casuals. Nintendo knows how to get them, it can take time but they are the only one doing it with just pure software.

inb4 inevitable should've been bundled originally talk. Yes, especially in America.

Maybe America will also need Mario Kart 8 Bundles next year, that should bloody work.

keep saying it to yourself. Curé may strike.

Nice bundle. But we have the nsmbu and nslu bundle.

I expected you to not have a single argument.

It looks like the games are pre-installed. Cheaper for Nintendo to install a digital version than adding a retail one, I suppose.
What I'm surprised is how, like Wind Waker HD, Wii Fit U will get an earlier digital release.

I think WiiFitU will be released retail until february, so that's 3 months in advance. I'm expecting more to come in this way. NSLU, WWHD, WiiFit U and WiiSports Club.

They've just released a bundle for Zelda which is clearly not for the casual audience.  And why does one bundle aimed towards casual fans mean they're going 100% casual?  When Sony made a Sports Champions bundle, does that mean they went 100% casual?  When Nintendo made a Zombi U bundle, did that mean they went 100% hardcore?  And, yeah, they raised the price and added something.  Sony did the same thing with the PS3 with the Super Slim.  Nintendo did the same thing with the 3DS.  There is nothing wrong with raising the price, and they'll presumably have the cheaper bundle available for those that want it.  I guess some people will try to put a negative spin on anything Nintendo...

vfguy said:
I don't know if it will make a difference. A PS3 is 6500 yen cheaper and offers a massive library compared with the Wii U's paltry selection.

Even the 360 is 11500 yen cheaper and has a huge library (yes, even in Japan).

The PS4 is clearly on the horizon as well and will only cost 10000 yen more than this bundle.

Bundling is obviously a cheaper way to "lower the price" than actually lowering the price and taking a loss on the hardware.

Personally, along with a cheaper price and more games, I would like a really cool Japanese Wii U LE console. That might get me to buy one.

PS3 is 6500 yen cheaper.  Factor in a second remote, and you're down to 3900 yen cheaper.  Factor in a game that is about 6000 yen, and you're more expensive with one less game.  As of now I don't believe that the PS3 comes with a game, but correct me if I'm wrong.  Now factor in the features of the Wii U.  Better graphics, Miiverse, remote play, multiplayer possibilities, Nintendo's lineup, and a console that will see more support, and it's clear to see why the Wii U will be a better option for many people.

As for the PS4, once you factore in a game and a second controller, you're looking at about 12,000 yen more.  If you want to talk about libraries, the Wii U's at the time will be far better than the PS4 launch lineup.  If you want to look past the launch, the PS4 won't have titles like Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, NSMB U, or quality casual games, and they won't have Nintendo first parties either.  The Wii U also has some features mentioned before that will be appealing to some customers.

I'm not saying that the Wii U is necessarily a better value than the PS4 for everyone, but if you look at it through non-biased eyes, it's easy to see why the Wii U is going to be a better value than PS4.

Statement 1:  The Wii U's library is too current gen for people to buy it.

Statement 2:  The PS4's launch lineup (80% of which are direct last gen ports) is awesome.

Lol wut?