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walsufnir said:
And then you are confronted with a big problem: drivers. Like every other Linux out there (no problem for me, my lspci shows almost only intel ;)).

Most likely this will be running on their Steam Box for the less technically incined and for those who hate having to ensure drivers and components are are up-to-date etc. I'm really let down by the fact you will need to stream your Windows based games in order to play them through the OS. Unless developers include a Linux version it could be a total letdown.



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We already know they wont be getting any EA games. Add to this fact that playing in the living room with a controller means no multiplayer gaming unless you want to get your ass handed to you. This will have no impact whatsoever.



Linux...

That means games would have to be specially designed to work on Linux... I doubt Big publishers would spend the money to do so, least not on launch days... And it will be mostly filled with indie games

So, no... Its not gonna work... Windows is popular cause it has the third party backing it up not only cause of games, but also other software...

Its like Microsoft trying to compete in the phone market



                  

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This could be very big. If Valve can get the kind of support they've managed to gather for Steam on Windows, then this could very well be the ultimate way to play games.

An OS designed with gaming in mind and without all the extra bloat that a traditional OS needs would be very good for PC gamers. It's now all about getting publishers, developers and appropriate driver support.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Linux...

That means games would have to be specially designed to work on Linux... I doubt Big publishers would spend the money to do so, least not on launch days... And it will be mostly filled with indie games

It means switching to OpenGL instead of DirectX - I don't see that as too much of the problem, considering Xbox is only one actually running DX. Bigger problem, imo, is the reasoning behind thinking that just because you have another OS it's not PC anymore.

Unless they offer hardware that performs same (or better) at the same price (or lower) as next-gen cosnoles, I don't see too many people jumping the ship.



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Huh. Looks like another step in Valve's world domination plan.

Doubt that they'll make it to step three, though. ;)



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allenmaher said:
Anfebious said:
What does this mean? Steam for Linux? What is so good about tihs?


They use Ubuntu Core 12.04 LTS as the basis of thier distribution.  This means a complete opensource robust OS underneath on which you can run just about anything.  On top of that they have added big picture and some steam logos.

No viruses.  Rock solid. Minimal overhead. No cost to you.  Really well supported (bugs fixed very quickly).  Very secure.

Downsides... while NVIDIA drivers are great, AMD are hit and miss but improving, Intel is quickly aproaching par.  On most other fronts, networking, CPU performance, disk performance, things are better than the windows world.  Some esoteric audio hardware may not function at peek efficiency (they dropped a hint about fixes in the works).

You can build your own and download and install the software.  Multiple manufacturers can build a steambox... competition in console providers.

Linux is not "very secure" nor is it "Rock Solid" and if you mean Ubuntu and not SteamOS, also not "Really well supported."



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tuscaniman99 said:
We already know they wont be getting any EA games. Add to this fact that playing in the living room with a controller means no multiplayer gaming unless you want to get your ass handed to you. This will have no impact whatsoever.


How so?

I dominate in BF3 with my PS3 controller.  If you use an accurate controller, you will do fine...



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vlad321 said:
allenmaher said:
Anfebious said:
What does this mean? Steam for Linux? What is so good about tihs?


They use Ubuntu Core 12.04 LTS as the basis of thier distribution.  This means a complete opensource robust OS underneath on which you can run just about anything.  On top of that they have added big picture and some steam logos.

No viruses.  Rock solid. Minimal overhead. No cost to you.  Really well supported (bugs fixed very quickly).  Very secure.

Downsides... while NVIDIA drivers are great, AMD are hit and miss but improving, Intel is quickly aproaching par.  On most other fronts, networking, CPU performance, disk performance, things are better than the windows world.  Some esoteric audio hardware may not function at peek efficiency (they dropped a hint about fixes in the works).

You can build your own and download and install the software.  Multiple manufacturers can build a steambox... competition in console providers.

Linux is not "very secure" nor is it "Rock Solid" and if you mean Ubuntu and not SteamOS, also not "Really well supported."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux  Note where the NSA security enhancements were merged kernel 2.6.x several kernels ago which is why it is used by big data, big science, and big government... Security.  These are not the only examples  lots of other security measures have been mainlined.  By support I mean bugs get patched quickly especially security vulnerabilities, not there is someone on the other end of the phone waiting to take your call... though you can pay for that.   SteamOS which is an offshoot of ubuntu core will get all upstream security patches asap... because it is based on a Long Term Service distribution it will do so for years before they need to upgrade it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/202452/why_linux_is_more_secure_than_windows.html