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Seems the ports and delay of Rayman Legends had turned out to be a disaster. The crowd for Jump&Run games is obviously on Nintendo consoles. 160 Mio PS3+Xbox360 users and the Wii U version has higher sales than either of those anyway.

Had Ubisoft released the Wii U game in february the sales would be much higher, but because of the delay many fans canceled their order and now there are many other good games for the Wii U out or near.



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The butt hurt really needs to stop when it comes to Rayman Legends. Pezus' chart above clearly shows that the audience is not just on Nintendo platforms but on all platforms and in the case of Origins mostly on Playstation consoles. So that and the fact that the Wii U began selling worse than even the Vita lead to them porting the game over to other consoles. And if your wondering why it's on Vita also just look at Origins sales.

 

4 Rayman Origins PSV 2012 Platform Ubisoft 0.09 0.21 0.00 0.04 0.35
5 Rayman Origins 3DS 2012 Platform Ubisoft 0.01 0.04 0.00 0.00 0.05

Including digital sales the Vita version is probably on par with the Wii version if not higher.



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z101 said:
Had Ubisoft released the Wii U game in february the sales would be much higher, but because of the delay many fans canceled their order and now there are many other good games for the Wii U out or near.


stuff like this is THE reason why nintendo has so much trouble with 3rd parties. i call bullshit on this "aaaawww it's not our fault! ubisoft delayed the game so we don't want it anymore". why?

 

but yeah. i know where you are coming from.



must-have-list for platforms i don't own yet:

WiiU: Donkey Kong

XBone: Dead Rising 3, Ryse

KH might be a million seller by the end of the year, hope FFX HD can do similar numbers.



BlowoverKing said:

The butt hurt really needs to stop when it comes to Rayman Legends. Pezus' chart above clearly shows that the audience is not just on Nintendo platforms but on all platforms and in the case of Origins mostly on Playstation consoles. So that and the fact that the Wii U began selling worse than even the Vita lead to them porting the game over to other consoles. And if your wondering why it's on Vita also just look at Origins sales.

Sure. And in the case of Legends, mostly on Nintendo consoles.

I don't care that they delayed the game, although I think it was stupid. But there's no denying Legends is selling best on Wii U after three weeks.



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the_dengle said:
BlowoverKing said:

The butt hurt really needs to stop when it comes to Rayman Legends. Pezus' chart above clearly shows that the audience is not just on Nintendo platforms but on all platforms and in the case of Origins mostly on Playstation consoles. So that and the fact that the Wii U began selling worse than even the Vita lead to them porting the game over to other consoles. And if your wondering why it's on Vita also just look at Origins sales.

Sure. And in the case of Legends, mostly on Nintendo consoles.

I don't care that they delayed the game, although I think it was stupid. But there's no denying Legends is selling best on Wii U after three weeks.


Of course theres no denying that Legends is selling  more on Wii U right now but do you think if they launched it back in February exclusively on Wii U that it would have sold more than the 170k in 3 weeks? This is an honest question since I don't think Ubisoft thought it would necessarily sell more on PS3 or 360 but it would at least bring total sales up.



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BlowoverKing said:
the_dengle said:
BlowoverKing said:

The butt hurt really needs to stop when it comes to Rayman Legends. Pezus' chart above clearly shows that the audience is not just on Nintendo platforms but on all platforms and in the case of Origins mostly on Playstation consoles. So that and the fact that the Wii U began selling worse than even the Vita lead to them porting the game over to other consoles. And if your wondering why it's on Vita also just look at Origins sales.

Sure. And in the case of Legends, mostly on Nintendo consoles.

I don't care that they delayed the game, although I think it was stupid. But there's no denying Legends is selling best on Wii U after three weeks.


Of course theres no denying that Legends is selling  more on Wii U right now but do you think if they launched it back in February exclusively on Wii U that it would have sold more than the 170k in 3 weeks? This is an honest question since I don't think Ubisoft thought it would necessarily sell more on PS3 or 360 but it would at least bring total sales up.



it would have sold more if released in Feb, not 170k of course but add like 20k-30k to WiiU numbers. Pre orders were around 35k in US back in feb, most people turned it down cuz of delay. Myself included but not for the reason delay, more of that im broke buying Pokemon X+Y/ Sonic Lost World/ LoZ! Back in Feb WiiU owners that wanted a game would of boughten the only new game that came out. I think MH3U+Lego City had good sales cuz of the drought. Legends releasig next to games nintendo finally putting out was a bad mistake, even worse with multi console owners that will buy GTA5 over it. Killzone on Vita is suffering cuz of it imo same with puppeteer!

tbone51 said:

Pre orders were around 35k in US back in feb, 


Don't do this to yourself, Tbone :P



KylieDog said:
eFKac said:

Waiting for the next week :P

Puppeteer and KZ: M sales make me wanna puke and cry :-/


Did you honestly expect much from Killzone?  Nobody wants to play a FPS, especially a series focused on multiplayer on a handheld.


Yup I genuinely did. I mean you have to manage your expectations accordingly to the sick situation of Vita in the West (it's also not that rosy in Japan at the moment) I expected like triple the FW retail sales that we have and a decent boost in hardware~, about 10-15k in the West. I'm also surprised it;s a series focused on multiplayer according to you, always treated it as a game that at best focuses on SP/MP evenly, or maybe even slightly skewed towards SP, considering how robust the story and the universe outside the games even, is.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

BlowoverKing said:


Of course theres no denying that Legends is selling  more on Wii U right now but do you think if they launched it back in February exclusively on Wii U that it would have sold more than the 170k in 3 weeks? This is an honest question since I don't think Ubisoft thought it would necessarily sell more on PS3 or 360 but it would at least bring total sales up.

No, I don't think it would have sold better in February on Wii U alone than it is selling now on 4 consoles combined. But it probably would have sold better in February on Wii U alone than it is selling now on Wii U alone. I don't know or care what Ubisoft thought.

What I'm "butt hurt" about is the fact that when Splinter Cell sold very little on Wii U compared to other consoles, people made a big whoop-de-doo about it and said it's evidence that third-party games don't sell on Nintendo consoles and third parties shouldn't bother with them at all. Now that Legends is selling best on Wii U (about 37% if I remember correctly), hardly anyone is talking about it. Nintendo fans are getting distracted by the delay and ignoring the bottom line.

No, it doesn't have to compete with GTA on Wii U, but it doesn't have to compete with GTA on PSV, either, and that doesn't seem to be helping it any. By all accounts the game has more competition on Wii U with Pikmin 3, W101, and NSLU (another 2D platformer) just having been released and Wind Waker coming soon than it has on PSV, and the Wii U still has a lower install base than the PSV, AND the PSV version is underperforming dramatically compared to Origins. And this is all true of the UK sales alone; I'm aware that the Vita version hasn't been released or isn't being tracked yet in most other regions.

The initial response was to dismiss the game's success on Wii U on the grounds that it's a "flop" on all consoles, but as it's likely to exceed 200k next week, that argument is starting to ring hollow. Just as expected, Legends' sales were not front-loaded, and they're going to leg out pretty generously.