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kirby007 said:

ehm how do you know the servers are weak?

nVidia itself said the GPU cluster used for the demo is the most powerful cloud servers ever created and they are too expensive to mantain a setup like that today.

nVidia is trying to show a tech for the future even so they only could simulate non-real time lighting.



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the-pi-guy said:

MS themselves even said the PS4 was stronger, but it was arguable by how much.  Even though that was said by the guy on Reddit, reddit apparently is stingy about making sure the sources are legit or something.  Even without that, PS4 being stronger has been shown by a few other MS guys in terms of messaging and specs.  Their thing is that the difference isn't as big as most are expecting.  Like what you said, no one seems to believe what anybody says if it goes against what they think or what they want.

This.

MS already assumed the Xbone is weaker than PS4... what they want to say now is that the difference is small than the paper specs says.

Paper = 40%
Real < 40%

They are trying to say that the power difference is not that big and explain why they think that.

BTW the games are starting to show the difference between power... I won't be surprised if BF4 runs at high resolution on PS4 than Xbone (the Xbone version was never showed yet).



dunno but microsoft said something along the lines that for each one the cloud will have the equivalent of 3 available



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kirby007 said:
dunno but microsoft said something along the lines that for each one the cloud will have the equivalent of 3 available

For each Xbox one the cloud will have 3 vCPUs, yep (but not 3 XBox One equivalent :))

As far as the OP: Well, if we look at the differences between games right now. Nothing is showing a power difference so I think that Microsoft is simply trying to make people understand the fact that having a more powerfull PS4 is not the whole story and they have some advantages too with their design other than raw power... Interresting.



Imaginedvl said:

For each Xbox one the cloud will have 3 vCPUs, yep (but not 3 XBox One equivalent :))

As far as the OP: Well, if we look at the differences between games right now. Nothing is showing a power difference so I think that Microsoft is simply trying to make people understand the fact that having a more powerfull PS4 is not the whole story and they have some advantages too with their design other than raw power... Interresting.

I think the games are showing exactly the power difference...

- Killzone is the best looking game the launch and runs at 1080p@60fps (MP and it looks better than SP showed at E3)
- Ryse is the best looking game for Xbone and runs at 900p@30fps
- Forza uses the same prebacked lighting used in previous games... looks like catoon... 1080p@60fps
- DriveClub do a lot of things more in the screen and right now runs at 1080p30fps
- PS4 games are running at 1080p
- Only Forza runs at 1080p
- Third-party games are running in PS4 right now... Xbone? No game was showed yet.



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ethomaz said:

Imaginedvl said:

For each Xbox one the cloud will have 3 vCPUs, yep (but not 3 XBox One equivalent :))

As far as the OP: Well, if we look at the differences between games right now. Nothing is showing a power difference so I think that Microsoft is simply trying to make people understand the fact that having a more powerfull PS4 is not the whole story and they have some advantages too with their design other than raw power... Interresting.

I think the games are showing exactly the power difference...

- Killzone is the best looking game the launch and runs at 1080p@60fps (MP and it looks better than SP showed at E3)
- Ryse is the best looking game for Xbone and runs at 900p@30fps
- Forza uses the same prebacked lighting used in previous games... looks like catoon... 1080p@60fps
- DriveClub do a lot of things more in the screen and right now runs at 1080p30fps
- PS4 games are running at 1080p
- Only Forza runs at 1080p
- Third-party games are running in PS4 right now... Xbone? No game was showed yet.

"Forza looks like cartoon" or "Ryze is the best looking game"... Thanks for sharing your very subjective point of view but what is the point of arguing about that, right :)

I'm not really interrested to start "I think my console/games are/looks better than yours..." crap with you, sorry...This thread is not even about that...



ethomaz said:

Imaginedvl said:

For each Xbox one the cloud will have 3 vCPUs, yep (but not 3 XBox One equivalent :))

As far as the OP: Well, if we look at the differences between games right now. Nothing is showing a power difference so I think that Microsoft is simply trying to make people understand the fact that having a more powerfull PS4 is not the whole story and they have some advantages too with their design other than raw power... Interresting.

I think the games are showing exactly the power difference...

- Killzone is the best looking game the launch and runs at 1080p@60fps (MP and it looks better than SP showed at E3)
- Ryse is the best looking game for Xbone and runs at 900p@30fps
- Forza uses the same prebacked lighting used in previous games... looks like catoon... 1080p@60fps
- DriveClub do a lot of things more in the screen and right now runs at 1080p30fps
- PS4 games are running at 1080p
- Only Forza runs at 1080p
- Third-party games are running in PS4 right now... Xbone? No game was showed yet.


That is a purely subjective list. We all know your allegiance, so why serve this? 

No, Depends, So what?, Anything significant?, Battlefield, so do WiiU games, so ?



Ex Graphics Whore.

My points are true... you can look, compare, anything else... the games showed on PS4 are ahead the ones in Xbone in technical terms.

You can say the art style and how it looks is subjective but in technical terms nobody can deny that and that what this thread is about.

BTW show my one multiplatform third-party running on Xbone? Please.



Imaginedvl said:
ethomaz said:

Imaginedvl said:

For each Xbox one the cloud will have 3 vCPUs, yep (but not 3 XBox One equivalent :))

As far as the OP: Well, if we look at the differences between games right now. Nothing is showing a power difference so I think that Microsoft is simply trying to make people understand the fact that having a more powerfull PS4 is not the whole story and they have some advantages too with their design other than raw power... Interresting.

I think the games are showing exactly the power difference...

- Killzone is the best looking game the launch and runs at 1080p@60fps (MP and it looks better than SP showed at E3)
- Ryse is the best looking game for Xbone and runs at 900p@30fps
- Forza uses the same prebacked lighting used in previous games... looks like catoon... 1080p@60fps
- DriveClub do a lot of things more in the screen and right now runs at 1080p30fps
- PS4 games are running at 1080p
- Only Forza runs at 1080p
- Third-party games are running in PS4 right now... Xbone? No game was showed yet.

"Forza looks like cartoon" or "Ryze is the best looking game"... Thanks for sharing your very subjective point of view but what is the point of arguing about that, right :)

I'm not really interrested to start "I think my console/games are/looks better than yours..." crap with you, sorry...This thread is not even about that...

Don't waste your time with ethomaz  with him he's always been negative about Xbox one and he thinks he knows everything but no he dosent let him say what he wants to say people like him ruined vgchartz 

 

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realgamer said:

Don't waste your time with ethomaz  with him he's always been negative about Xbox one and he thinks he knows everything but no he dosent let him say what he wants to say people like him ruined vgchartz

Last thread I was right about what I said  but nobody cares because the truth hurts.