I think the important thing here is that it fails to achieve the next gen standard.

Initially, we wanted 60fps at 1080p for all games. That isn't happening, so the new standard shifted to 30fps@1080p or 60fps@720p. Ryse fails to deliver on this front and is the first game confirmed as such. 

It's not a big deal, but it is important to some.

Lol Forza uses baked lighting and Drive club uses dynamic lighting.....

Froza's cars don't look around realistic and the environments from what we have heard so far doesn't look next gen while Driveclub has time cycles and gorgeous environments.....have you seen the latest build of driveclub? The only thing Forza has on it at this point is AA. 

And yet DriveClub has twice the time to render an image than Forza. Can't believe that I have to read this again and again. Just stop it please, we heard every argument for and against DC and/or Forza a thousand times. You won't convince Forza fans or DriveClub-fans.

Oh the poster is a prominent PisS3 fan and will not shut up because he is too blinded by the power of un released Piss4

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I said before... after they finished the port from PC target to Xbone hardware the games will get downgraded from what they showed at E3.

Nothing because there are power behind PS4 to use... so the games are upping the specs... games runing 1080p@30 are starting to reach 60fps... it will be a trends.

Killzone MP looks better than anyghint showed for PS4/Xbone for now and runs at 1080p@60fps.

Driveclub is targeting 60FPS.

So say it meets it goal, would that be enough to convince? 

ok simple question for you, let's say forza would only have to calculate half the amount of fps (30) and driveclub would have to calculate twice the amount (60fps), that would mean a 4x change in needed power between both games. 2x as much to calculate for ps4 but only half as much  for xb1.

please tell me what you think how both games would look against each other then?

ps4 is obviously stronger but i don't see that when i look at forza or drivceclub because driveclub has it so much easier with the huge advantage of using less fps.

you jsut have to look at forza 4 and forza horizon on xbox 360 to know that it is so much easier to make a racing game look good with half the frames.

ok they say they target 60fps in driveclub but to be honest, i doubt they will achieve it if they won't reduce something else for it. right now we still saw pop-ups, bad aliasing and only time trial without other opponents (forza 4 has better anti-aliasing in time trial). i doubt that they could fix the aliasing porblems (which they said they have) and run the game with real races and not only time trial and still achieve 60fps. that would be a really crazy jump in the last months before release.

but if they can manage it it would be surely impressive.

The OP shat on his own thread from start by saying "Xbones weak GPU is showing"

Targeting doesn't mean they are going to hit it and from what i heard the framerate in Killzone varies form 20FPS to 60FPS.