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Sony fans are always ridiculously cheerful and hype even (what appears to be) the most mundane of news.

That's where Nintendo fans come in. Always doubting their systems and games, and (for the most part) looking at the future in a pessimistic fashion. Because Nintendo fans have conceded the fact that Sony fans can't: You can't get every game you want on your system of choice.

Both balance each other well. If Nintendo fans were more like Sony fans...well, I can't imagine the scale of the disaster.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Because you don't get teased with a lot of trailers/footage/coverage of upcoming games. Unless it is e3 or a direct just before a release.



RolStoppable said:

A wise man once said:

"Nintendo fans: Always depressed for no good reason. Sony fans: Always excited for no good reason."

Words of wisdom indeed. The best example that comes to mind for the purpose of this topic are the Wii U and Vita as a whole. While Nintendo fans are critical of the system itself as well as Nintendo, (most) Sony fans apparently couldn't be happier.

Why did Nintendo fans want to buy Wii Us? Primarily to play great Nintendo games, and perhaps whatever good third party games might hit the system. What happened? A lengthy Nintendo software drought. The reaction? Anger and disappointment, so people didn't hesitate to get their pitchforks ready and grill Nintendo for their pathetic execution.

Why did Sony fans want to buy Vitas? Powerful hardware, great third party support, first party games. What happened? Third party support is questionable and nowadays mostly comes from indie developers who don't push the hardware which in turn lets Vita's power go to waste; Sony's first party studios are focused on other systems. The reaction? Pretty much everything is right in the world and Sony is doing a good job with the Vita.

Now that's not to say that every single Nintendo and Sony fan reacted in the described manner, but the majority did. So I'll ask: Where's the positivity among Nintendo fans? Why can't we praise downloadable games as the second coming? Why can't we be happy about the little things we get instead of endlessly complaining about what we don't get? The Wii U already has so many good games to play, but for some reason we are entitled pricks who demand new exclusive content all the damn time.

At the bolded.  This isn't true, atleast not for me.  I think the Vita has better games, but I criticize Sony all the time because they don't listen to their fanbase.  Nintendo finally listened to the fanbase and released Xenoblade, what has Sony done.  The constant begging for years for Sony to do something about certain game releases, or the constant begging since launch for Sony to give some incentive for developers to localize their Japanese games and get other developers to develop games.

With the Vita they release or get indie g ames ported over to the Vita.  They ask us what games we want again and 99.9999% of the time we're telling them we want localized retail games from Japan.  What happens?  Moar indie titles.  Now this third party localization and development crew comes along.  Epic Mickey 2 and Borderlands 2.  More ports and shit we didn't ask for.  And don't forget Gamescom that Shahid hyped it all to hell saying it's what we've been asking for.  Then 99.9% of the fucking show is more indie games.

Sony needs to get a fucking clue we don't give a shit about indie games.  The indie game fad has come but it's mostly gone.  There's no reason to ride the hype t rain when you're late to the party.  Just like you did with the Vita forcing touch screen on literally every first party game even when physical controls would have been fine.  With the Move forcing first party developers to release versions of Move motion controls on their games instead of doing extra story parts like on Heavy Rain where the Taxidermist was the only DLC we got in a long line up of what Quantic Dreams stated they wanted to release.  They wouldn't quit talking about the Wonderbook.  Two fucking E3s in a row we had to hear about this shit, plus atleast one Gamescom. 

Sony needs to stop pushing their bullshit on us and listen to the fans once in awhile.  We've been pretty vocal on what we like and w hat we don't like, and Sony just seems to do the opposite on a lot of occasions. 

Congratulations Sony.  The PS Vita TV is an amazing idea, and the PS4 is a work of art when it comes to an affordable yet powerful next gen console, and you're not a year behind, but step your game up on literally everything else and stop dragging your feet.  The Vita is the more powerful portable but it's not being used to its potential because you're not doing shit about it.  Ports or not it still has better games, but it's mostly ports, and that's one of the biggest reasons the system and the games aren't selling.  Didn't they say they weren't going to allow it to turn into a port machine and they did, like I mentioned above going so far as porting games themselves with Epic Mickey 2 and Borderlands 2?

I'm a Sony fan, but they've been doing an incredibly shitty job lately.



I think this is exact the opposite: why sony´s fans can´t be like Nintendo fans ?

I don´t see as much arguing about the future WiiU lineup as people say. This last quarter seems amazing for both WiiU and 3DS and Nintendo fans seems excited.
As for Vita, there´s not much to expect in therms of software in a near future. maybe next year....



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I would say, don't try to be like Sony fans. Really don't be!!!



Easy.

The people who has bought Vita knows they have paid for a really powerful hardware.

The problem is the console dosn't have so many games.

The people who has bought Wii U knows they have paid for an old hardware.

Plus the console dosn't have so many games.

Also, Vita is portable, so in my case is like a complement of my home console. (Which is the main)

Wii U is a home console, so in my case... i think it's sucks as main console, as is sucks to be a complement too.

My opinion, of course.



orniletter said:
Soundwave said:

Nintendo fans deserve the most love I think because I think they put up with the most garbage. If Sony or MS tried to do some of the same things Nintendo does (slowwwwwww OS, no account system, no third party support, outdated hardware, console droughts galore, reusing art assets in their biggest franchise) they'd be abandoned in a heart beat by their "fans".

As much flak as MS took for example with the XBox 1, they very quickly changed a lot of their policies after listening to their fans ... lol, Nintendo just does whatever they feel like. For years we had to put up with 512MB of storage on the Wii and the "fridge system" of deleting/redownloading Wiiware/VC content, lol, because Nintendo didn't feel it was prudent to open up SD Card support.

It was only after years of complaints that they allowed for some actual SD Card support. Stuff like that is just one example.


thats a pretty shitty list of reasons to" leave " Nintendo

-the slow OS was nowhere near as bad as the typical internet hyperbole wants you to believe (and switching brands because of a slow OS? please)

-funny that you mention the accout system, an account system means jack shit in my books if it isn´t used to carry your purchases to the next console, I take the seperate Wii mode over "when hell freezes over" and "maybe far in the future when your Internet connection is super fast and you live in america (Gaikai won´t fucking work for the majority of people)"

-oudated hardware? ...what counts are the games, you don´t play hardware

-reusing assets `? Majoras Mask, Oracle of Seasons/ Ages were better BECAUSE Nintendo didn´t have to fuck around with creating new assets/ wasting time

-third party support and game drought are valid though (but there is only so much blame for the lack of third party support you can sling at Nintendo....when you look at the third party launch line up of the Wii / WiiU )


Who said anything about "leaving Nintendo" (by the way it is possible to own multiple consoles without the universe imploding)? I was saying that as Nintendo we do get to enjoy some incredible games, but we are asked to put with an awful lot to do so. If Sony/MS adopted a lot of Nintendo's policies towards online/system OS/and the same policy to third parties, both would be out of the game business long ago, just like Panasonic (3DO).

We do get crapped on a lot by company policy with regards to hardware/OS/online services and software support. It's simply why there's more strife within the Nintendo community as opposed to the Sony/MS fan communities, because Sony/MS generally just give their fans what they want most of the time (ie: MS caving on several big policy decisions on the XB1 within weeks of E3 ... Nintendo didn't give one poop about the ramifications of going CD-less in the N64 era and wouldn't have listened to anyone else).

It's just the price that's paid for being a Nintendo fan. Majora's Mask reused the OoT engine, but Wind Waker and Twilight Princess did not ... which is a difference, the NSMB asthetic now has been used 4 straight times (not the case with the older 2D Marios). That's what I was referring to.

And you do play the hardware and you pay for the hardware, and quite frankly in terms of bang for the buck, you should be getting more than something moderately better than a 2005-era XBox 360 eight years later for $350.



Arius Dion said:
Locknuts said:
Well I complain because they totally disappointed me with the Wii. I know they're capable of greatness, but almost everything since the Cube has pretty much sucked IMO.

Everything since Cube? As in GameCube? That system was a joke. The only reason I like the Gamecube is because its monumental failure caused Nintendo to create the Wii. Same reason I guess I'll eventually like the Wii U is hopefully Nintendo's next system has a similar goal.


but you have a GameCube game in your sig....



GameCube could've been great. The execution just wasn't there.

If they could've combined a lot of the good things they did with the N64 (epic Mario + Zelda + GoldenEye FPS audience) with Resident Evil exclusivity and Metroid Prime + a disc format for other third parties ... that would've been a winning formula for them.