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attaboy said:
It wasn't what I expected but I'm warming up to the idea very quickly. I don't know if I'll buy but I gotta give credit where credit is due. Lot of potential for greatness, here!

Lots of potential for greatness awaits. Get it?   Since "Greatness Awaits" is the PS4 tagline.



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Train wreck said:
osed125 said:

Question, from a gaming perspective, why is the Vita.TV a good idea when you apparently can't play half of the games available for the system? 

Answer: Because you are not thinking outside the box.  I find it PRETTY amazing that Sony could create a Vita drive for the Vita TV that reads vita games but has the uncanny ability to block certain games (even though the size and configuration has not changed) they must truly be magicians. 

I Guess we will find out more on November 10th and november 15th with this and the PS4 releases in the west.  Since no one has a hands on with it yet, and Sony obviously not spilling everything, im sure more will be updated like:

If i put an uncharted game in and turn it on, will it come on

If i pair a european/US DS4 with the console, will it read, etc etc

Sony gave a list of games (check my post above) and arguably the best games and the system sellers for the Vita aren't there. But like I said, we have to wait and see.



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osed125 said:
Train wreck said:
osed125 said:

Question, from a gaming perspective, why is the Vita.TV a good idea when you apparently can't play half of the games available for the system? 

Answer: Because you are not thinking outside the box.  I find it PRETTY amazing that Sony could create a Vita drive for the Vita TV that reads vita games but has the uncanny ability to block certain games (even though the size and configuration has not changed) they must truly be magicians. 

I Guess we will find out more on November 10th and november 15th with this and the PS4 releases in the west.  Since no one has a hands on with it yet, and Sony obviously not spilling everything, im sure more will be updated like:

If i put an uncharted game in and turn it on, will it come on

If i pair a european/US DS4 with the console, will it read, etc etc

Sony gave a list of games (check my post above) and arguably the best games and the system sellers for the Vita aren't there. But like I said, we have to wait and see.

The best games might not be showing up for various reasons, Assassin's creed vita is about to get a HD re-release for the PS360, Ubisoft probably wanted this game off the list to not stunt sales of the upcoming game.  Uncharted and Gravity Rush most likely utilize the touch pad that wont be available until the PS4 is released



Wipeout 2048 doesn't work, but for those who have played it, touch screen is only required to choose the races. Remember how the Vita UI and keyboard was touch screen only, and after a patch you can now control those features with buttons? Certain games will probably receive patches to work on the PS Vita TV. The PS4 controller may even utilize the touch pad as the touch screen in certain games.

Since the touch pad is clickable, touching the PS4 touch pad on the PS Vita TV could place a cursor on screen where you're going to touch, and then you click to virtually touch the screen.  After clicking, until your finger is removed from the touch pad, it recognizes you as still touching the screen, so throwing grenades on Uncharted, or doing the charcoal rubbings, etc.  That would work well.  Unfortunately games requiring the back touch pad wouldn't work unless you could change the touch pad on the PS4 controller to be onoe or the other.



Train wreck said:
osed125 said:

Sony gave a list of games (check my post above) and arguably the best games and the system sellers for the Vita aren't there. But like I said, we have to wait and see.

The best games might not be showing up for various reasons, 1) Assassin's creed vita is about to get a HD re-release for the PS360, Ubisoft probably wanted this game off the list to not stunt sales of the upcoming game.  2) Uncharted and Gravity Rush most likely utilize the touch pad that wont be available until the PS4 is released

@bold1 Stupid reason, it's not like the game is new to the Vita.TV, the game is almost a year old, no reason to think the exact same game will cannibalize the PS360 release. It's not even a re-release of the Vita game.

@bold2 What about the rear touchpad and games that use it?



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osed125 said:
Soriku said:
osed125 said:

Question, from a gaming perspective, why is the Vita.TV a good idea when you apparently can't play half of the games available for the system? 


Well, one that's not true. Two, on a DS3 you can click the L3/R3 buttons to enable touch conrols and use the sticks to move around. And with a DS4 that has a touchscreen things will be easier. Some games will likely be patched as well I'm guessing.

Sony gave a list of games, a lot of very important tittles aren't in there. I guess we just have to wait and see.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-09-09-sony-announces-playstation-vita-tv-device

UPDATE: Sony has now detailed the list of PlayStation Vita titles compatible with PS Vita TV. The line-up is extensive but not exhaustive, and some key titles are missing.

We couldn't spot a number of high-profile exclusives such as Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush or WipEout. Third-party games not mentioned include Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation, Need for Speed and Rayman Legends.

The possibility remains that Sony will patch-in support for more titles at a later date. And, of course, this list may differ should the device release elsewhere.

The only game that is missing on there for Japan's sake is Gravity Rush. I don't think they will miss games like Assassin's Creed and Wipeout. And it's not like its only function is to play Vita games. You said from a gaming perspective. That includes things like PS4 remote play.

Anyways, yeah we just need to wait and see how Sony plans on pushing this further, especially with the western release.



TheKoreanGuy said:

The only game that is missing on there for Japan's sake is Gravity Rush. I don't think they will miss games like Assassin's Creed and Wipeout. And it's not like its only function is to play Vita games. You said from a gaming perspective. That includes things like PS4 remote play.

Anyways, yeah we just need to wait and see how Sony plans on pushing this further, especially with the western release.

In case this stays the same and those games don't work in the west, then you still have to buy a Vita, which has remote play to begin with. Plus we don't know if all Japanese games are on that list. 

As of right now, from a gaming perpective, the only appeal the Vita.TV has is if you want only the PS4 remote play and you don't care about the games it's missing (if they stay the same).



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Reading the PDF document from SONY makes it clear that it WILL come to the west, we will see then the "WEST games list" (and they can listen to feedback from Japanese people and we might get a better product by that time. (firmware updates, patches for more games...)



Persona 5 on PS3, I won't need next gen!

I was excited for it, but now that people pointed out that key titles are missing, and despite some future patches to bring them, you still can't go around trying to emulate a touchscreen with analog sticks.

Emulating ds games that make extensive use of the touchscreen is a pain in the ass because of that. totally unplayable.

This is PSP go all over again.



FrancisNobleman said:
I was excited for it, but now that people pointed out that key titles are missing, and despite some future patches to bring them, you still can't go around trying to emulate a touchscreen with analog sticks.

Emulating ds games that make extensive use of the touchscreen is a pain in the ass because of that. totally unplayable.

This is PSP go all over again.

I can see that being a problem with Little Big Planet Vita and probably Tearaway, but Gravity Rush, Uncharted and Wipeout have pretty easy to emulate touch/backtouch functions considering PS3/4 pads have more buttons .. well the end boss fight in Uncharted might feel even a bit worse than it already does though