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Who will look more desperate over Xb one 2nd GPU rumours?

Xb one fans who want to see that 2nd GPU. 218 47.29%
 
Ps4 fans who are sure there isn't a 2nd GPU. 76 16.49%
 
They're all fools regard... 167 36.23%
 
Total:461
fordy on 09 September 2013
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:

4D basically referred to what the cloud is today. Ken's vision was to have all CELLs connected through the internet making each other stronger when they're not locally needed. Didn't really happen, but nothing as crazy as you're talking about.

Obviously YOU don't understand 4D in the scientific sense, either...


Are we talking science or are we talking PlayStation?

Why am I even bothering with you...

(I'm waiting for the Japan conference to start so I have nothing else to do I guess)

PlayStation re-writes science, apprently.

So, what would the other 3 dimensions of PlayStation be if the 4th is CPU interconnect?



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fordy on 09 September 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Oh, and my biggest pet peeve on this site is the constant misuse of the word hypocrisy. Please educate yourself on the meaning so you dont keep using it. Also go look up logical fallacies. More specifically the whole doesnt make up parts and the parts dont make up the whole


Thought you were going....no? 

You do realise that, based on your first post, this IS hypocrisy. Ironic that you're spouting misuse of it while displaying it at the very same time...

Yes, I am going but I think you need to re-read my original post if you think it's hypocrisy. Or at least gain some sort of comprehension before you speak. By me addressing the OP does not mean I think eery single X1 fan thinks there is a second gpu... don't even know why I'm bothering with this nonsense
Max King of the Wild said:
See, the difference is the x1 fans are stretching, reaching, assuming and speculating. The opposing side is just making them aware that wishful thinking doesnt make it true. If it does turn out to be true it wont mean anything to the opposing side. But if it turns out to be false then the ones who spread the nonsense would be the ones looking silly.

noun (plural hypocrisies)

[mass noun]



fordy on 09 September 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fordy said:
CGI-Quality said:

I would advise you to read the edit, since it wasn't ever an argument of mine. You asked to explain what 4D was, and from memory, I did, in addition to giving you a source. To understand your own stuff, you need to, first, understand what 4D means in a given space. This post proves that you don't. And try not to be so condescending, it's not helping you make any points. 


Explanation != Condescending. Believe me, I could milk it out a lot more. You make it very easy...

I've read the link, and it does not explain ONE thing about 4D. Raindrops on decaying wood is represented on a state machine the exact way that I told you, by storage of a previous state's relevant data to produce the next state. That data EXISTS in the same point in time, as what happens on an ideal state machine. Of course, if you're talking about 4D on a non-ideal state machine, then ALL CPUs do that, so why would it be bragged about?

The only thing you've milked are irrelvant comments that have done nothing but expose an undermining, personal agenda. Where it's time to cut ties to this convo - when one side refuses to accept things they don't want to hear. You haven't aided some good cause with your tirades, but, you have, most definitely, been condescending.  

But, go with it.

Let's take the religious defense here, then? The PS3 has 4D, and unless somebody DISPROVES it appropriately, then it does!

Sorry, the onus is on the CLAIMANT, not the sceptic. Linking a page about raindrops on decaying wood (which can be prefectly matched on any other system out there) does little to prove your point.

But sure, walk off thinking you've proven something...it does wonders with self-dignity



Max King of the Wild on 09 September 2013
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Oh, and my biggest pet peeve on this site is the constant misuse of the word hypocrisy. Please educate yourself on the meaning so you dont keep using it. Also go look up logical fallacies. More specifically the whole doesnt make up parts and the parts dont make up the whole


Thought you were going....no? 

You do realise that, based on your first post, this IS hypocrisy. Ironic that you're spouting misuse of it while displaying it at the very same time...

Yes, I am going but I think you need to re-read my original post if you think it's hypocrisy. Or at least gain some sort of comprehension before you speak. By me addressing the OP does not mean I think eery single X1 fan thinks there is a second gpu... don't even know why I'm bothering with this nonsense
 

noun (plural hypocrisies)

[mass noun]

Is what I said untrue? Are the X1 fans who are saying this is true reaching and speculation on rumor? And are the opposing views not saying "hey, this is a rumor"

I'm really confused as to what your point is... but whatever... keep on keeping on



fordy on 09 September 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Oh, and my biggest pet peeve on this site is the constant misuse of the word hypocrisy. Please educate yourself on the meaning so you dont keep using it. Also go look up logical fallacies. More specifically the whole doesnt make up parts and the parts dont make up the whole


Thought you were going....no? 

You do realise that, based on your first post, this IS hypocrisy. Ironic that you're spouting misuse of it while displaying it at the very same time...

Yes, I am going but I think you need to re-read my original post if you think it's hypocrisy. Or at least gain some sort of comprehension before you speak. By me addressing the OP does not mean I think eery single X1 fan thinks there is a second gpu... don't even know why I'm bothering with this nonsense
 

noun (plural hypocrisies)

[mass noun]

Is what I said untrue? Are the X1 fans who are saying this is true reaching and speculation on rumor? And are the opposing views not saying "hey, this is a rumor"

I'm really confused as to what your point is... but whatever... keep on keeping on

Apaprently your original quote that I pasted must have been quite embarassing, considering that you deleted it's contents, but once again...

Your claim is that Sony fans (the other side) have higher standards (in the case of informing that wishing on something doesnt make it true), whereas I've highlighted their....you guessed it....hyposcrisies.

Better?



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fordy on 09 September 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fordy said:
CGI-Quality said:

The only thing you've milked are irrelvant comments that have done nothing but expose an undermining, personal agenda. Where it's time to cut ties to this convo - when one side refuses to accept things they don't want to hear. You haven't aided some good cause with your tirades, but, you have, most definitely, been condescending.  

But, go with it.

Let's take the religious defense here, then? The PS3 has 4D, and unless somebody DISPROVES it appropriately, then it does!

Sorry, the onus is on the CLAIMANT, not the sceptic. Linking a page about raindrops on decaying wood (which can be prefectly matched on any other system out there) does little to prove your point.

But sure, walk off thinking you've proven something...it does wonders with self-dignity

Nah, it just seems you're more into this than anyone else and one can only imagine why. I have nothing left to prove, because I didn't have an agenda.

Besides, with Sony's conference starting, this is hardly worth continuing. ;)

Try again. 

We're not in a black and white world here, and some people just like calling others out on their bullshit. Doesn't mean I agree with the opposing side.



Max King of the Wild on 09 September 2013
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Is what I said untrue? Are the X1 fans who are saying this is true reaching and speculation on rumor? And are the opposing views not saying "hey, this is a rumor"

I'm really confused as to what your point is... but whatever... keep on keeping on

Apaprently your original quote that I pasted must have been quite embarassing, considering that you deleted it's contents, but once again...

Your claim is that Sony fans (the other side) have higher standards (in the case of informing that wishing on something doesnt make it true), whereas I've highlighted their....you guessed it....hyposcrisies.

Better?



Now youve resorted in putting words in my mouth. Bravo. No, "the opposing side" does not mean sony fans. I have seen MS fans deny it and oppose MS fans, Nintendo fans, and PC fans. but keep on keeping on. And I deleted the comment because I tried to delete the quote tree but you just keep with the logical fallacies and assumptions. Thats what youre good at



Machiavellian on 09 September 2013
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Oh, and my biggest pet peeve on this site is the constant misuse of the word hypocrisy. Please educate yourself on the meaning so you dont keep using it. Also go look up logical fallacies. More specifically the whole doesnt make up parts and the parts dont make up the whole


Thought you were going....no? 

You do realise that, based on your first post, this IS hypocrisy. Ironic that you're spouting misuse of it while displaying it at the very same time...

Yes, I am going but I think you need to re-read my original post if you think it's hypocrisy. Or at least gain some sort of comprehension before you speak. By me addressing the OP does not mean I think eery single X1 fan thinks there is a second gpu... don't even know why I'm bothering with this nonsense
Max King of the Wild said:
See, the difference is the x1 fans are stretching, reaching, assuming and speculating. The opposing side is just making them aware that wishful thinking doesnt make it true. If it does turn out to be true it wont mean anything to the opposing side. But if it turns out to be false then the ones who spread the nonsense would be the ones looking silly.

noun (plural hypocrisies)

[mass noun]

I would have to say that hypocrisies does apply to the bolded quote if you are going to go by the definition given.  I do believe people wanted to debate how plausible the rumor is not that it was something people were wishing, hoping or stretching the truth.  Instead comments like the one bolded actually turn good debate into fanboy nonsense as one side seeks some type of elevation.

No one claimed it true besides maybe one or 2 people.  No one needed the other fanboy side to make anyone aware of anything.  Instead if the other side wanted to debate on why the rumor is false and give examples than it would mean they are on topic instead of comments like the one bolded.  In other words, everything went to pot once one side felt the need to throw fanboy ammo in a post to stur the pot.



Max King of the Wild on 09 September 2013

And you still haven't answered my question. Is it not true that the ones saying the rumor is true reaching and speculating on a rumor? And is it also not true that the ones saying its just a rumor doing just that... saying its just a rumor? If so, re-read the definition again because no hypocricy on my end



fordy on 09 September 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
fordy said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Is what I said untrue? Are the X1 fans who are saying this is true reaching and speculation on rumor? And are the opposing views not saying "hey, this is a rumor"

I'm really confused as to what your point is... but whatever... keep on keeping on

Apaprently your original quote that I pasted must have been quite embarassing, considering that you deleted it's contents, but once again...

Your claim is that Sony fans (the other side) have higher standards (in the case of informing that wishing on something doesnt make it true), whereas I've highlighted their....you guessed it....hyposcrisies.

Better?



Now youve resorted in putting words in my mouth. Bravo. No, "the opposing side" does not mean sony fans. I have seen MS fans deny it and oppose MS fans, Nintendo fans, and PC fans. but keep on keeping on. And I deleted the comment because I tried to delete the quote tree but you just keep with the logical fallacies and assumptions. Thats what youre good at

True, it does NOT mean Sony fans exclusively, but it does INCLUDE Sony fans, and that's who I am targeting.

What was that about logical fallacies? A -> B <=/=>  B -> A. You just made a huge one there, yourself..