Here is proof PS4 is more powerful
Links to comment saying everyone some random person talks to says it is so it must be true.

If it was true guys you wouldn't be linking a comment from a guy that talked to a guy who says its so.

All the devs I talked to said Atari 2600 was more powerful
It must be true cause they wouldn't lie and I wouldn't make that up

You are having the XBox One as the more expensive system. Why is the argument now whether or not it can keep up with the PS4? Why isn't the debate about the PS4 being on par with the One? Is it a good thing that Microsoft's console merely come in on par with the PS4?

Based on your logic, good sir, since Microsoft is so HUGE, they wouldn't have let Sony get the jump on them. Since Microsoft is so HUGE. Lol

You have heard from two Microsoft people on the inside say it isn't true and to "wait and see". You have heard from a friend of a friend of a guy of his wife's boss who is a developer for some company that...PS4 is more powerful. Who do I believe...?

It's like this. There is a faucet of information. Microsoft is the faucet connected directly to the water source. Whereas the information you got has been circulated through this massive, complicated piping system. Who knows where it's been or if that is even the water from the source, the one Microsoft is connected to.

By the way, before you say anything about Microsoft lying, consider this. Sony was sued I believe for lying about console hardware at one point in their existence. Class action law suit. If Microsoft has lied or is lying, you can go sue them for hundreds of millions, maybe billions. See you at the court house? Or...are you speaking out the side of your head? Lol. "Microsoft is lying! Trying to recover what they lost! Blah blah blah! Because I say so! I have no proof! Sony is perfect! They haven't lied to us!"

Puhlease son. Come back to me with proof from AMD's mouth, Sony's backing, and Microsoft's confirming they have a significantly weaker console. Because then, you are right cut and dry. But you can't because AMD has said nothing. Sony has said nothing. Microsoft has said "You don't know everything guys, because we haven't told you."

From the GAF thread, maybe already posted here.

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I think Adrian should jump into the conversation. He does it all the time in his blogs.

Here I am. So...

1. I am not doing a damage control, but I do want to clarify one thing. But first, yes, devs I know -- and as someone has shown it before in this thread, some other devs already talked about it too -- claim that there's 50% speed difference WHEN DEVELOPING in cross-gen/next-gen PS4/XO games. So there we are, I said it and I stand by it. Notice: WHEN DEVELOPING. It'll become clear in a second.

2. Will this change in the future? WIll devs discover some tricks to narrow the gap? Will stuff like XO cloud computing help? Hell if I know. Uhm, maybe? I know that devs -- well, most of them -- will do whatever they can do get you the best games possible. You're going to see a lot of multiplatform games this next gen, just as you've seen them in this gen, so it's in studios' best interest that there's no clear advantage in one version over the other.

3. Does it mean studios will cripple PS4 versions to match XO ones? Not really, do not underestimate the devs. Even if this happens, you will not know that and that's okay. You've never seen most games in their most powerful form anyway (when we work on them on our ninja dev PCs in 1080p 120fps with all the antialiasings and stuff turned on for shits and giggles). But most of the time devs have a target and they meet this target. If it's a multiplatform game, it's designed with this in mind from the start. So maybe it's not maxing out one console while going 100% on the other. Maybe it's 100% on both, but they take extra time for super-extra optimizations on the weaker hardware to make sure things look the same as on the more powerful platform. Etc. etc.

4. So what is that "one thing" I want to clarify, that some people may consider "damage control", but really is just an explanation. Someone mentioned Titanfall, which looks money and enjoys a great hype. Exactly. A great dev will make a great game no matter what's the hardware. Current gen CoDs looks great and it's 60 fps, on both platforms (well, and PC :). To most devs that is just impossible to achieve. And yet...

Think about it this way. X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overall (although PS is faster/better in SOME areas). And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform.

So if you think that the war is over because PS4 is 50% faster TODAY, then you're delusional. This is far from over, and will probably never be over, at least not this upcoming gen.

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The games are going to look virtually the same. Just like this gen. I don't see the point in bickering.

Also, I thought PS3 was the more powerful platform when utilized properly, but J Allards says the contrary. First party games certainly favor the PS3, so I'm curious.

Do you know how much shit the PS3 got this gen for its multiplats? Michael Pachter talked so much shit about the PS3 because of it. I wonder what he'll say if the PS4 has the slight edge on multiplats.

I haven't seen J Allard NOT downplay Sony even once with his posts.  He's obviously biased and yet denies it at every opportunity.  The guy just needs to accept his fanboyism but he'll probably just say I'm "catching feelings" because I'm noticing a pattern.

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The vet totaly beats the crap out of the n00b :P

What I posted was written by the same Adrian as the OP.

You know what would help me stop posting about you catching feelings? You not catching feelings anymore. You should probably work on that. Hope that helped.