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riderz13371 on 06 September 2013
selnor1983 said:
Puppyroach said:
JoeTheBro said:
selnor1983 said:
Lol. All this bullshit talk about forza baked lighting from sad people. Forza 4 has rwaltime lighting confirmed by the developers. Forza 5 has again got a brand new lighting sytem again confirmed by turn 10. Oh and yeah what bit of dynamic lighting coming from turn 10 does some people not understand. Turn 10 dan greenwalt confirmed it. End of.

Wut?

Unless they redid the whole lighting system in the past few months, it's pre baked.


I love these kind of things, people actually spending time drawing these lines like a true conspiracy theorist :).

I looked around on youtube for clips containg these images, but couldn´t find them. I did, however, find a clip from Forza 5, taken outside of the car and with a lot of potential imagery to draw these lines in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJ28jorf6s

Does it actually look prebaked to you?

 

EDIT:

Found them, and they are prerendered screens in the game, just look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXJMOZxQtwk 0:41 to 0:47 :).

Thanks. Someone posted that these screens arent gameplay. Thay are loading screens. Gotta love the internet.

Still waiting for your links where you show us it's not pre baked lighting. Come on, you said you had interviews with Dan or w.e his name is? Where are they?



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selnor1983 on 06 September 2013
iamdeath said:
selnor1983 said:
iamdeath said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Uncharted 1,2 and 3, God Of War 3 and Acention, The Last of Us.. all those PS3 exclusives could run with minor compromises on the 360. And they would look as good as the time and money at hand to port.

Idem for Halo 3-4, Gears 1, 2 , 3, Forza 2, 3, 4...

Just get on with this discution.


Wrong/... These games use CELL and MLAA, where cell does a lot of work taking the laod off the GPU, this is Something the 360 CANNOT do, it's why uncharted, killzone god of war look better then anything on 360. Let me guess, you don't own a ps3? I own both, and there is a noticeable difference between those games and anything on 360.

No there isnt. ( Also MLAA is the cheapest AA option for resources ).

I have both ( add me on PSN : selnor1983 ).

Halo 4,Forza Horizon, Crysis 3, Gears 3 look as good as any PS3 exclusive.

They do not, this is well known and documented, Digital foundry and other analysis that can be fond with a quick google search.

 

MLAA is the cheapest yes, thats because consoles cannor do other forms of AA at leasy until this gen. Cell is uses extensively on these ps3 exclusives that really take the load off the cpu alloowing devs to cram higher rest textures, lighting, and effects on PS3 esclusives. GEarslooked goos in 2007...it's not even in the top 10 looking games now unreal 3 was surpassed by many custom engines this gen.,


Sorry. DF support me. They said it wih Foza Horizon, Halo 4 and Crysis 3.

Gears 3 still is incredible today. I played it last week, and still llooks right up there.

You do realsie alot of games on 360 use the more expensive MSAA dont you?

Gears 3 used 2x MSAA

FOrza Horizon used 2 x MSAA

Halo 4 used 4 x MLAA



Wright on 06 September 2013
iamdeath said:


Uncharted and TLOU medicore games? How? LOU in partiocular has some of the best Stealth, survival, and melee gameplay this entire gen, sorry but cannot take an yomne serious. Funny how not 1 reivew out of 100 mentioned mediocre gameplay.............Sony bought them all right? Please. TRLOU gameplay is better then anything on Xbox, it MP also happens to be great as well. Same goes for uncharted a perfect blend of balls to the wall action, huge set pieces, stealth and platforming. It's rewards speak for themselves and it's not just because of the cinematics.....that's moronic.

 

You might think that because you sleep with your xbox daily, but no sensible gamer nor gaming media thinks so. So you saying it certainly doesn;t make it so.


I found the stealth of TLoU atrocious. Seriously, the gameplay is solid, but the stealth is not



selnor1983 on 06 September 2013
riderz13371 said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Its COD with mechs. It could sell any console that has a fanbase that loves shooters. It's addictive pick up and play gaming.


Ironicaally this new gen, Sony fans on this site sem to be touting a shooter ( Killzone ) over any other game. Microsoft have sim racer, Beat em up, Action Open world game, Obscure game, Hack n slash game at launch. The kinds of games Sony fans normally tout. So it should sell to early adopters of Ps4 gamers as they are al sooter fans.


Sony is a lesser known company for shooters. Their first party is all over the place in many genres, you're just trying to make yourself feel better, so humor yourself. Are you mad that Sony launched with a very strong shooter in Killzone? Dead Rising is never a console seller, although its a decent game. Ryse isn't in the hack n slash genre, its a simple action adventure with a battle system more akin to Assassins Creed then Hack-n-slash genre titles like God of War, Bayonetta, or even Ninja Gaiden. Ryse goes like this: *Block* *stab* *chain stab* *block* *slash** QTE*. Forza is the only system seller. Hopefully by the review we'll get a good look at the single player because the multiplayer doesn't look great at all. I'm hoping that it is good because I will be testing out Ryse if I get an Xbone in the next two years or so. Enjoy all of your shooters on the Xbone, especially the one Black Tusk will be unveiling in the future. The only genre Sony has had a hard time with was shooters and you know this, but Killzone has always been a solid title. Whether you like it is of no consequence and poking and prodding at it wont change anything. I don't find either console that great to buy at launch, but February is a different story. InFamous is my day one seller.

Hold  up. Im not making myself feel anything. 

You made the comment its a shooter game and will sell to the xbox fanbase. Essentially saying its  not a  system seller. At least thats how I understood your post. Sorry if Im wrong.

Killzone is a solid title. Although 3 was pretty mediocre. 2 at least SP was much better. At least to me.

Witthout a doubt though Microsoft has got a better variety on launch. In genres you wouldnt normally asscoiate Microsoft pushing so hard in. So far  Microsoft has  annoucned over 15 exclusives. 2 of which are shooters. annd only 1 Kinect. Ryse does have elements of ack n slash. But also looks like providing a very cinematic driven experience of which games like Uncharted and TLOU are praised for. Theres noting wrong with that from Crytek if  it works to provide an experience. 

Uncharted and TLOU are prety mediocre games, but amazing cinematic experiences.Thats why those games are great fun to enjoy. Theres no reeason why Ryse cant end up the same. 

Im extremelyy happy with my purchase and variety the Xbox One is providing. 

If I misinterpreted your post, its my mistake.

Are...Are you a comedian?

Those games have pretty standard gameplay. They are great games because of the experience as a whole. 



iamdeath on 06 September 2013
Wright said:
iamdeath said:


Uncharted and TLOU medicore games? How? LOU in partiocular has some of the best Stealth, survival, and melee gameplay this entire gen, sorry but cannot take an yomne serious. Funny how not 1 reivew out of 100 mentioned mediocre gameplay.............Sony bought them all right? Please. TRLOU gameplay is better then anything on Xbox, it MP also happens to be great as well. Same goes for uncharted a perfect blend of balls to the wall action, huge set pieces, stealth and platforming. It's rewards speak for themselves and it's not just because of the cinematics.....that's moronic.

 

You might think that because you sleep with your xbox daily, but no sensible gamer nor gaming media thinks so. So you saying it certainly doesn;t make it so.


I found the stealth of TLoU atrocious. Seriously, the gameplay is solid, but the stealth is not


I just played hitman a full stealth game and thet stealth in that game was worse, totally disagree. What was wrong? I never had a single issue. The game also always made you feel vunerable with low supplies and gaving to sneak, use melee often (The melee was excellent), the gunplay is also excellent.



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riderz13371 on 06 September 2013
selnor1983 said:
riderz13371 said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Its COD with mechs. It could sell any console that has a fanbase that loves shooters. It's addictive pick up and play gaming.


Ironicaally this new gen, Sony fans on this site sem to be touting a shooter ( Killzone ) over any other game. Microsoft have sim racer, Beat em up, Action Open world game, Obscure game, Hack n slash game at launch. The kinds of games Sony fans normally tout. So it should sell to early adopters of Ps4 gamers as they are al sooter fans.


Sony is a lesser known company for shooters. Their first party is all over the place in many genres, you're just trying to make yourself feel better, so humor yourself. Are you mad that Sony launched with a very strong shooter in Killzone? Dead Rising is never a console seller, although its a decent game. Ryse isn't in the hack n slash genre, its a simple action adventure with a battle system more akin to Assassins Creed then Hack-n-slash genre titles like God of War, Bayonetta, or even Ninja Gaiden. Ryse goes like this: *Block* *stab* *chain stab* *block* *slash** QTE*. Forza is the only system seller. Hopefully by the review we'll get a good look at the single player because the multiplayer doesn't look great at all. I'm hoping that it is good because I will be testing out Ryse if I get an Xbone in the next two years or so. Enjoy all of your shooters on the Xbone, especially the one Black Tusk will be unveiling in the future. The only genre Sony has had a hard time with was shooters and you know this, but Killzone has always been a solid title. Whether you like it is of no consequence and poking and prodding at it wont change anything. I don't find either console that great to buy at launch, but February is a different story. InFamous is my day one seller.

Hold  up. Im not making myself feel anything. 

You made the comment its a shooter game and will sell to the xbox fanbase. Essentially saying its  not a  system seller. At least thats how I understood your post. Sorry if Im wrong.

Killzone is a solid title. Although 3 was pretty mediocre. 2 at least SP was much better. At least to me.

Witthout a doubt though Microsoft has got a better variety on launch. In genres you wouldnt normally asscoiate Microsoft pushing so hard in. So far  Microsoft has  annoucned over 15 exclusives. 2 of which are shooters. annd only 1 Kinect. Ryse does have elements of ack n slash. But also looks like providing a very cinematic driven experience of which games like Uncharted and TLOU are praised for. Theres noting wrong with that from Crytek if  it works to provide an experience. 

Uncharted and TLOU are prety mediocre games, but amazing cinematic experiences.Thats why those games are great fun to enjoy. Theres no reeason why Ryse cant end up the same. 

Im extremelyy happy with my purchase and variety the Xbox One is providing. 

If I misinterpreted your post, its my mistake.

Are...Are you a comedian?

Those games have pretty standard gameplay. They are great games because of the experience as a whole. 

No...they don't. They are great experiences because they have great gameplay, great graphics, great story, and they create an incredible atmosphere. A game doesn't score 90+ meta with "standard" gameplay, whatever the hell you define as standard. What would you give me as an example of a game with superb gameplay? 

The answer from you is obvious, but it's still going to be funny seeing you post it.



iamdeath on 06 September 2013
selnor1983 said:
riderz13371 said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Its COD with mechs. It could sell any console that has a fanbase that loves shooters. It's addictive pick up and play gaming.


Ironicaally this new gen, Sony fans on this site sem to be touting a shooter ( Killzone ) over any other game. Microsoft have sim racer, Beat em up, Action Open world game, Obscure game, Hack n slash game at launch. The kinds of games Sony fans normally tout. So it should sell to early adopters of Ps4 gamers as they are al sooter fans.


Sony is a lesser known company for shooters. Their first party is all over the place in many genres, you're just trying to make yourself feel better, so humor yourself. Are you mad that Sony launched with a very strong shooter in Killzone? Dead Rising is never a console seller, although its a decent game. Ryse isn't in the hack n slash genre, its a simple action adventure with a battle system more akin to Assassins Creed then Hack-n-slash genre titles like God of War, Bayonetta, or even Ninja Gaiden. Ryse goes like this: *Block* *stab* *chain stab* *block* *slash** QTE*. Forza is the only system seller. Hopefully by the review we'll get a good look at the single player because the multiplayer doesn't look great at all. I'm hoping that it is good because I will be testing out Ryse if I get an Xbone in the next two years or so. Enjoy all of your shooters on the Xbone, especially the one Black Tusk will be unveiling in the future. The only genre Sony has had a hard time with was shooters and you know this, but Killzone has always been a solid title. Whether you like it is of no consequence and poking and prodding at it wont change anything. I don't find either console that great to buy at launch, but February is a different story. InFamous is my day one seller.

Hold  up. Im not making myself feel anything. 

You made the comment its a shooter game and will sell to the xbox fanbase. Essentially saying its  not a  system seller. At least thats how I understood your post. Sorry if Im wrong.

Killzone is a solid title. Although 3 was pretty mediocre. 2 at least SP was much better. At least to me.

Witthout a doubt though Microsoft has got a better variety on launch. In genres you wouldnt normally asscoiate Microsoft pushing so hard in. So far  Microsoft has  annoucned over 15 exclusives. 2 of which are shooters. annd only 1 Kinect. Ryse does have elements of ack n slash. But also looks like providing a very cinematic driven experience of which games like Uncharted and TLOU are praised for. Theres noting wrong with that from Crytek if  it works to provide an experience. 

Uncharted and TLOU are prety mediocre games, but amazing cinematic experiences.Thats why those games are great fun to enjoy. Theres no reeason why Ryse cant end up the same. 

Im extremelyy happy with my purchase and variety the Xbox One is providing. 

If I misinterpreted your post, its my mistake.

Are...Are you a comedian?

Those games have pretty standard gameplay. They are great games because of the experience as a whole. 

?? No. Name one game that combines the stealth, survival annd brutal melee of TLOU? No game this gen so easily blended platforming, large set piece battles and stealth like uncharted. Sorry, in that case gears and halo are dog boring by comparison.



selnor1983 on 06 September 2013
riderz13371 said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Puppyroach said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sorry Microsoft, but the only thing selling the Xbone is Titanfall and its not even coming out at launch. Can't blame them for bullshitting, neither they nor Nintendo should say otherwise.


Titanfall seems to have a systemselling style to it, that´s why it´s so good that it  coming six months into the consoles life.


Its COD with mechs. It could sell any console that has a fanbase that loves shooters. It's addictive pick up and play gaming.


Ironicaally this new gen, Sony fans on this site sem to be touting a shooter ( Killzone ) over any other game. Microsoft have sim racer, Beat em up, Action Open world game, Obscure game, Hack n slash game at launch. The kinds of games Sony fans normally tout. So it should sell to early adopters of Ps4 gamers as they are al sooter fans.

What is the beat em up and hack n slash game? Ryse? 

What is the obscure game?


Killer Instinct - BEUP

Project Spark/unset Overdrive -Obscure

Nack n slash - sort of Ryse



Wright on 06 September 2013
iamdeath said:
Wright said:


I found the stealth of TLoU atrocious. Seriously, the gameplay is solid, but the stealth is not


I just played hitman a full stealth game and thet stealth in that game was worse, totally disagree. What was wrong? I never had a single issue. The game also always made you feel vunerable with low supplies and gaving to sneak, use melee often (The melee was excellent), the gunplay is also excellent.


If you're refering to Hitman Absolution, I agree. Beaten it, and the stealth is way too mechanical. You can get past enemies that are next to you just because they're not looking at you, even if your footsteps can be heard.

 

I don't have a complain about TLoU gunplay or melee. I'm just saying that its stealth didn't tick on me.



riderz13371 on 06 September 2013
selnor1983 said:
riderz13371 said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Puppyroach said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sorry Microsoft, but the only thing selling the Xbone is Titanfall and its not even coming out at launch. Can't blame them for bullshitting, neither they nor Nintendo should say otherwise.


Titanfall seems to have a systemselling style to it, that´s why it´s so good that it  coming six months into the consoles life.


Its COD with mechs. It could sell any console that has a fanbase that loves shooters. It's addictive pick up and play gaming.


Ironicaally this new gen, Sony fans on this site sem to be touting a shooter ( Killzone ) over any other game. Microsoft have sim racer, Beat em up, Action Open world game, Obscure game, Hack n slash game at launch. The kinds of games Sony fans normally tout. So it should sell to early adopters of Ps4 gamers as they are al sooter fans.

What is the beat em up and hack n slash game? Ryse? 

What is the obscure game?


Killer Instinct - BEUP

Project Spark/unset Overdrive -Obscure

Nack n slash - sort of Ryse

Oh you are including Sunset Overdrive, a game that's not only hasn't had any gameplay shown, but doesn't even have a release date? If we compare the exclusive titles PS4 and Xbox One have side by side you will find the PS4 coming out on top. I mean, all I really need to mention are three games: Killzone, inFAMOUS and The Order 1886.