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Augen said:

Not sure how that would work, need to see it first.

I meant at home like is portrayed in the advertisement.  At my office I have it, where I am now.  I do not watch sports at the office though.  

Understood.  The advertisement clearly is geared toward affluent men that are NFL fans that participate in NFL fantasy football leagues, live in the US, and have Internet at home.  OR it could also be geared toward, men that have a job, are NFL fans, that may or may not participate in NFL fantasy football leagues,  live in the US, have Internet at home, and want to be seen as affluent or in UK terms posh.

Nothing in that commercial is geared toward gaming or gamers, non-NFL fans, or those living outside the US, and it isn't intended to at all.

Anyone complaining that it doesn't or the imagry that is shown in the video doesn't apply to them doesn't get that they're not the intended target of the message.

I can find an advertisement for Iru-Bru, which highlights the Scottish nature of the drink.  And I, as a non-Scottish citizen of the USA may not identify with that commercial at all.  But then again, why the fuck would I?  It's a commercial run in Scotland, aimed at Scottish people.  I am neither.  I can't even buy the fucking product. 

Good advertisements are geared toward a segment of a market.  Even if they seem like they're for a general audience, they're still geared toward an audience.  You just may not realize it because you're part of that audience it is geared toward.



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JOKA_ said:
Adinnieken said:
JOKA_ said:

Thats a great commercial, but the timing seems off.

If you don't have an X1 pre-ordered at this point, you aren't going to get one on Nov 22nd. Heck, you probably won't be able to find one on a store shelf until 2014.

People who aren't aware of the X1 yet (aka the people this commercial is aimed at) will see the commercial, try to go to gamestop/best buy/walmart to get one, and the guy behind the counter will go "oh you would have needed to pre-order this a while ago to get it on the 22nd"

Still, its a well done commercial, got me hyped for football

What makes you think there won't be consoles available at launch?

"Day One" consoles are a limited availability console and only available for pre-order.  What will be available at the stores are regular bundles. 

I firmly believe that being able to find an X1 (or PS4) on a store shelf is going to be very, very difficult.  There will be midnight launches all over the place, and non-pre-ordered stock is going to go fast.  Your Average Joe who rolls in on Saturday the 23rd (I would bet that the average consumers will naturally try to wait until the weekend to get a unit) is going to have some trouble getting an X1.

The demand is going to outstrip supply for a while, which kind of makes commercials almost useless, but you have to build hype.  Its kind of an interesting situation.  The companies need to build hype so that the consoles name gets out there, but they totally aren't going to need the commercials to sell units, they are going to sell out even without the commercials.

Saturday the 23rd you might be right.  However, Microsoft has said it is committed to not having the same situation that happened with the Xbox 360, which was a lack of supply.  So, that lack of supply may or may not happen.



Adinnieken said:
Augen said:

Not sure how that would work, need to see it first.

I meant at home like is portrayed in the advertisement.  At my office I have it, where I am now.  I do not watch sports at the office though.  

Understood.  The advertisement clearly is geared toward affluent men that are NFL fans that participate in NFL fantasy football leagues, live in the US, and have Internet at home.  OR it could also be geared toward, men that have a job, are NFL fans, that may or may not participate in NFL fantasy football leagues,  live in the US, have Internet at home, and want to be seen as affluent or in UK terms posh.

Nothing in that commercial is geared toward gaming or gamers, non-NFL fans, or those living outside the US, and it isn't intended to at all.

Anyone complaining that it doesn't or the imagry that is shown in the video doesn't apply to them doesn't get that they're not the intended target of the message.

I can find an advertisement for Iru-Bru, which highlights the Scottish nature of the drink.  And I, as a non-Scottish citizen of the USA may not identify with that commercial at all.  But then again, why the fuck would I?  It's a commercial run in Scotland, aimed at Scottish people.  I am neither.  I can't even buy the fucking product. 

Good advertisements are geared toward a segment of a market.  Even if they seem like they're for a general audience, they're still geared toward an audience.  You just may not realize it because you're part of that audience it is geared toward.

I get that the Xbox One isn't just a gaming device, but an all around media device, however the people buying it for 500 dollars on day one aren't the ones this commercial is targeting. I'm just wondering if there is a demand for a $500 (plus tax) device like this for hardcore football fans especially considering they have already been doing these things with TV and a computer/smartphone for a lot cheaper than the Xbox One is offering. It offers convenience by being an all-in-one type deal, yes, but at the same time not really. You would still need a subscription with a cable provider, a subscription to gold, a t.v. and have to pay 500 dollars for a device that does what you can already do. At that point, why not just stick with what you have?

There's no doubt though that with their partnership with the NFL they will be able to pump out their logo and name more than their competition and that's always a good thing, but I'm not sure if this commercial was aimed at the right audience. And I'm really looking foward to seeing how the partnership pays off for them.



Figgycal said:
Adinnieken said:
Augen said:

Not sure how that would work, need to see it first.

I meant at home like is portrayed in the advertisement.  At my office I have it, where I am now.  I do not watch sports at the office though.  

Understood.  The advertisement clearly is geared toward affluent men that are NFL fans that participate in NFL fantasy football leagues, live in the US, and have Internet at home.  OR it could also be geared toward, men that have a job, are NFL fans, that may or may not participate in NFL fantasy football leagues,  live in the US, have Internet at home, and want to be seen as affluent or in UK terms posh.

Nothing in that commercial is geared toward gaming or gamers, non-NFL fans, or those living outside the US, and it isn't intended to at all.

Anyone complaining that it doesn't or the imagry that is shown in the video doesn't apply to them doesn't get that they're not the intended target of the message.

I can find an advertisement for Iru-Bru, which highlights the Scottish nature of the drink.  And I, as a non-Scottish citizen of the USA may not identify with that commercial at all.  But then again, why the fuck would I?  It's a commercial run in Scotland, aimed at Scottish people.  I am neither.  I can't even buy the fucking product. 

Good advertisements are geared toward a segment of a market.  Even if they seem like they're for a general audience, they're still geared toward an audience.  You just may not realize it because you're part of that audience it is geared toward.

I get that the Xbox One isn't just a gaming device, but an all around media device, however the people buying it for 500 dollars on day one aren't the ones this commercial is targeting. I'm just wondering if there is a demand for a $500 (plus tax) device like this for hardcore football fans especially considering they have already been doing these things with TV and a computer/smartphone for a lot cheaper than the Xbox One is offering. It offers convenience by being an all-in-one type deal, yes, but at the same time not really. You would still need a subscription with a cable provider, a subscription to gold, a t.v. and have to pay 500 dollars for a device that does what you can already do. At that point, why not just stick with what you have?

There's no doubt though that with their partnership with the NFL they will be able to pump out their logo and name more than their competition and that's always a good thing, but I'm not sure if this commercial was aimed at the right audience. And I'm really looking foward to seeing how the partnership pays off for them.

Just because something can be done with multiple devices does not mean its ideal for all situations.  People are willing to spend money on an experience.  A experience takes in all of the different things a device can do and make it a product.  Case in point would be the situation of watching a game on your X1 and having the ability to Skype one to many people for a video call.  You can do that with two separate devices now.  You can watch the NFL game and use your phone or PC for the Skype conference but that’s clunky and does not produce a really solid experience so most people would not do it.  The X1 solution provides a smooth integration of features people use today in one device that makes sense and adds value as a product.

 

I believe people are looking at the situation but not looking at the full scope.  MS isn't just going for the NFL, they are going for all the sports because it’s something very social which the X1 can tie its features into. Look for NBA and MLB including FIFA and other sports originations.



Figgycal said:

I get that the Xbox One isn't just a gaming device, but an all around media device, however the people buying it for 500 dollars on day one aren't the ones this commercial is targeting. I'm just wondering if there is a demand for a $500 (plus tax) device like this for hardcore football fans especially considering they have already been doing these things with TV and a computer/smartphone for a lot cheaper than the Xbox One is offering. It offers convenience by being an all-in-one type deal, yes, but at the same time not really. You would still need a subscription with a cable provider, a subscription to gold, a t.v. and have to pay 500 dollars for a device that does what you can already do. At that point, why not just stick with what you have?

There's no doubt though that with their partnership with the NFL they will be able to pump out their logo and name more than their competition and that's always a good thing, but I'm not sure if this commercial was aimed at the right audience. And I'm really looking foward to seeing how the partnership pays off for them.

As I said elsewhere, the advertisement is meant to plant a seed in the minds of this particular group of buyers.  The intention is to get them to get more curious.



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The xbox brand is already synonymous with video games in the USA, this is about growing the market to include those who wouldn't normally be interested by a standard video game, as well as provide a compelling reason for football fans to choose xbox over the competition when buying a new console. Expanding to non-gamers worked for the Wii.



great ad, will definitely push sales



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Adinnieken said:

I can find an advertisement for Iru-Bru, which highlights the Scottish nature of the drink.  And I, as a non-Scottish citizen of the USA may not identify with that commercial at all.  But then again, why the fuck would I?  It's a commercial run in Scotland, aimed at Scottish people.  I am neither.  I can't even buy the fucking product. 

Canot stand the stuff, still find it amusing when the snowman nicks that kids Bru though.



dsgrue3 said:
Jereel Hunter said:
dsgrue3 said:
Back to TV and Skype huh?

Microsoft simply does not understand the desires of the market.


I thinkt he irony here is that YOU are claiming THEY don't understand 'the market'. They understand the market they are going for, but you probably don't see what that is. They aren't playing this add on vgchartz.com, they're going to play it during football games. And guess what? I'm a huge NFL fan, and this excites me greatly.

And, seeing as you're on a video game forum, you're in the target audience I identified in my picture. Namely, the overlapping group between gamers and NFL fans.

Did you miss the image or what? (Extreme irony)

I didn't miss the image, the point is you're assuming they're only targeting the overlapping market. They aren't. They are targetting every NFL fan with the ad. Since the Xbox is a media device, it doesn't require someone to be a gamer to be in the target market.

And even if they were only looking for the overlaps... Madden '13 sold a combined total of over 5 million units, not counting used sales. Football fans who are also gamers aren't exactly a small segment to target. If even a small % of football fans opted for the X1 for this feature instead of the other platforms... the commercial paid off.



dsgrue3 said:
kowenicki said:

Not one?  Really?  There is no possibiloty of even one NFL fan buying a ONE due to this marketing?

Wow.  marketing is  a myth.  forget it.  Google, close your doors.

If a bit of hyperbole is enough to upset you this much, you probably should not frequent the internet sir.

nightsurge said:

Agreed. Terrible graph.

Contrary to what dsgrue thinks, there will be many NFL fans that are not gamers that gain an interest in the Xbox One for this commercial and for its media features.

If a non gamer becomes a gamer as a result, that's another win for MS.

Thinking that the target audience is only gamers is ridiculous. If non gamers never bought gaming products, the Wii would be much lower in sales. And people spend hundreds on media machines all the time as well.

The Wii didn't draw people in to watch TV. It brought in people to play games in an easy way. It was accessible (and affordable). 

This device is pretending to be more than a gaming machine and I won't be deluded into thinking it's something more. To expect an NFL fan not interested in gaming to see that commerical and buy the XBO is quite foolish. 

Wow. Thinking the Xbox One is just a gaming device is quite foolish.

Perhaps you should come down off that high horse you are on. It appears to be approaching a cliff with a very long drop and an undesirable landing.