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I doubt there would even be that many ps4's and XB1's manufactured in 2013



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ListerOfSmeg said:

Well if someone at Gamestop said, it must be true..lol...

I take it this is your first gen as a gamer? No console in history sold 1 million every month let alone 2.

Sorry but your opinion is missing logic, reason, and common sense.

Dont feel too bad though. Looking at some of these responses you arent the only one living in a dream world...

Yes a 399.99 console and a 499.99 console are both going to sell more at launch than even the Wii did.....



Yes, x1 and ps4 can easily outsell what the wii did at launch. Nintendo was coming off a 22mil console and didnt expect to sell that x5



Both consoles combined? totally possible.
Either of them? holiday 2014 for sure.



Angelv577 said:
spemanig said:
I don't even think they can outsell the Wii U by 2014. That's if they do at all, which they won't. Like I've said. Wii U 1st. XBO 2nd. PS4 3rd. PS4 will be second for maybe two years, but the XBO will build momentum faster and overtake it. The Wii U will take off this holiday due to a relaunch campaign and bundles of Wind Waker HD in September, Super Mario 3D world in December, and if they're smart, Wii Fit U as well. Nintendo is in a better place this holiday then you guys think. For this holiday, and especially for next year when compared to the XBO and PS4. Watch the momentum speed out of control. Wii U? More like Wii 2. (Not really, but it's gonna sell the best still)

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Lol, doesn't take much faith with numbers like Donkey Kong's 5m, Wii Party's 7m, Mario & Sonic's 8m, Super Mario 3D Land's 8m+, Super Smash Bros' 10m, Wii Fit's 20m, and Mario Kart's 34m. Compared to what? Killzone's 2.9m? Infamous' 2.6m? Lol, ok. You could've maybe argued Kinect's 20m if the thing wasn't $500 plus subscription. "Hardcore gamers" have never and will never influence how well a system will sell. Get ready for a shit storm come the end of Janaury than all next gen consoles are completely out of the womb and have to fair for themselves without preorders or black friday to protect them.



Ever notice how not a single one of the major video game news outlets has reported the PS4 10 million or the Xbox One 7/6.2 million shipment stories?

I'll just let you guys think on that for a moment.



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Max King of the Wild said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

According to VGC the Wii passed X360 in mid-August 2007, quite a while after the end of 2006.

The X360 at this time of year in 2006 was just over 4 million (about 20% higher than WiiU is now). At the end of 2006 it had managed 8 million, so assuming a similar trend the Wii U should pass 6.5 million by the end of the year.

6.5 million is way too high a figure for either console to get at launch, companies don't like creating surplus stock (particularly of bulky items) so for them to make enough to sell over 6 million in 2 months they would be assuming iPad/iPhone-like demand.

I think it would be on the optimistic side to predict the combined sales of PS4/XB1 will surpass WiiU (though that is at least plausible)

 

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Your forgetting one thing though. Nintendo never expected those Wii sales. If they did then they could have produced more and sold more but it turned out to be a massive hit they never saw comming and were supply constrained and since they didnt expect it you cant just flip a switch and ramp up production. Sony and Ms are both expecting their system to catch on and will definatly have more supply than the Wii. 1Mil preorders a few weeks ago. Combined they will definatly overtake the wii u. That isnt optimistic its conservative. Wii U shipped 3Mil its first quarter and ms and sony will definatly at least match that

I am not forgetting it, but even Wii would not have managed 6.5 million in it's first two months with adequate supply, and it has the price advantage over PS4/XB1 (which is important for the parents buying kids demographic at Christmas)

However, demand for the Wii aside, Sony and/or Microsoft will be worried about overproducing (particularly Sony given what happened with the PS3)... If Sony thinks the demand for PS4 is similar to that of the Wii, they will probably be wanting to have more like 4-5 million units for 2013.... to surpass the WiiU they would need over 7 million (bare in mind Sony was burned with the PS3 when they manufactured 5/6 million by March 2007)

Then there can be manufacturing issues that limit what Sony/MS will even be able to produce within the timescale... probably not anything like Nintendo because they are much bigger companies, but weren't both X360 and PS3 supply contrained at launch (for a few months for X360, and PS3 was delayed in Europe because of them) and I doubt either of them had half the number of units shipped in time to make 6.5 million sales possible. I suspect both will have learned a little from past mistakes (e.g Cell chip being complicated to produce) but consoles still have custom chips and new and unusual electronics that aren't already manufactured in bulk like ARM chips for smartphones.

I can't say I have been keeping up with the news much but I think best case scenario for PS4 (assuming there is Wii like demand) would be 4.5 million units in 2013, and maybe 3 million for XB1 (higher price plus more unusual parts to manufacture with Kinect and the supposed custom chip MS designed... oh, and Japan)

That's 7.5 million for the both of them together and I think I am being generous with those figures.... after all that has the XB1 matching the Wii, AND the PS3 doing 50% better than the Wii did.



No, that was only leo-J. Others know this won't ever happen.



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Max King of the Wild said:
ListerOfSmeg said:

Well if someone at Gamestop said, it must be true..lol...

I take it this is your first gen as a gamer? No console in history sold 1 million every month let alone 2.

Sorry but your opinion is missing logic, reason, and common sense.

Dont feel too bad though. Looking at some of these responses you arent the only one living in a dream world...

Yes a 399.99 console and a 499.99 console are both going to sell more at launch than even the Wii did.....

Yes, x1 and ps4 can easily outsell what the wii did at launch. Nintendo was coming off a 22mil console and didnt expect to sell that x5

PS2 launch came off a (at the time) 80 million strong console and the Wii smashed it's records (admitedly staggered launch is clouding any real comparison there)

PS3 launch though came off a >100 million strong console and Sony still didn't expect 7 million sales by the end of 2006 (based on their fiscal estimates they were intending to manufacture (not ship, nor sell) 6 million by April 2007)



richardhutnik said:

Didn't the Wii blow past the 360 within months of being released?

Yes, but it wasn't fast enough to do that in 2006:

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2006/Global/

So I think PS4 and X1 will also not be able to do it.



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