I wasn't arguing against the premise.

How dare you talk about the mighty Sony, didn't you see this post

Those $2 - $5 indie games will look OUTSTANDING on the PS4.

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enjoy your ban

Also I've seen developers say they are close powerwise and I've seen developers say the complete opposite, the Internet keep contracdicting itself

I want to see the guys here showing the Devs saying the Xbone and PS4 have the same graphical power...

Because I can show to you a lot of devs saying otherwise.

PS4 will have superior multiplats

I dont really understand what is being talked about, but i know one thing, in 99% of cases a hardware based solution is always better than a software implemented solution.

As for AMD and why they didn't tell MS about this, perhaps they did. At the end of the day AMD provide the barebones system and Sony/MS decide how they want to develop it. They may have said, we recommend these options.. Sony/MS will tell AMD what they want.

For the moment we have no idea how this will play out, perhaps it will look graphically the same and it will only affect FPS or nothing at all visible, we just dont know. Just have to wait and see.

amd employee?  did i say they were lying?  im just saying huma is there new thing.  if they thought ms would be better without it would they say otherwise?

I think MS fired or forced out most of the people who created and loved the xbox/live and gave the xbox 1 to people who were good corporate players who toted the new One Microsoft plan that has windows 8 and the new windows phone doing so well. they decided this console would be their profit taker. 

where as the prior teams knew what it took and worked in the community  they managed to build a following by working outside the microsoft mainstream in an area MS really wanted access too, despite failures of the team with the XB gpu deal, and the RRD, the built a loved brand and a community that MS could make inroads into the living room with permanently if handled well (see all the crap with xbox branding now)

now in about 6 months they have destroyed most of their image and good will … not all of it, but a good portion 

ill also note while not top top of the line compared to pus on the market when launched the 360s gpu was very close to the top of the line and gnu released just two months before the 360 came out and the XB1 had comparatively good gnu… the xb1 is about a midrange gpu from a year ago, and should move down to a lower midrange when the next and gpus come out in about a month. too bad i was really looking fwd to pushing 4k/8k … i ended up moving from sd to hd due to the 360, guess there is no need this gen 

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to sumerize the original XB team who fathered it were told to make inroads no matter the cost and built the XB and 360, the new team was told to make money off our investment and broden its target group. the new team may have destroyed the brand or at least a large chunk of good will it had 

Say what you want to make yourself feal better.  They said it is far stronger and they are the ones making it.  Get your head out of THE CLOUD.

Please stop with the, well all of these developers are saying they are pretty much the same. Why can people know PR bullshit when it comes to MS, Sony, or Nintendo, but not when it comes out of a devs mouth? Or is it just selective PR bullshit detection? These devs don't want to get either of these two companies pissed at them, so they say vanilla shit like well they are basically the same. See how vague that is. If you asked them about the tech without putting a name to it, I bet you would get severely different answers than if you ask them if the One or PS4 is the more powerful.

Please do... and I mean the whole "lot". Please refer to the multiplat "lot" as this should be relevant in our context. Thank you.