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CGI-Quality said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Well if you just look at it simply,, yes.

Again I ask this, wouldn't that apply to both the PS4 and the X1?


No, the Xbox One has rocket science level stuff. 



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enditall727 said:
attaboy said:
Some devices actually are just progressions of what is already available. I'd say the SNES was a beefed up Nes but I wouldn't say the Wii was a beefed up Gamecube. I wouldn't say that the DS was just a more powerful GBA but I would say that the 3DS was just a more powerful DS. It's not a bad thing.

To be honest, I made a big deal earlier but it remains to be seen if the PS4 and Xbox One are just natural progression or huge leaps from the previously laid groundwork. I do think M$'s focus on Kinect (for better or worse) is what will make that console unique. We'll see.


So you agree that the Wii was basically on par with its former Gamecube, correct? Everybody gives credit to Nintendo and the Wii for its full motion controls. I love Nintendo but everybody claimed that Nintendo was innovative with the full motion control thing but didn't Nintendo copy the Xavix in that area?

 

So since you tried to single out Sony with the whole taking everybody elses ideas and adding it to their repertoire thing, what would you say about Nintendo and the Wii?

 

Kinect was also on the 360 so the Kinect on Xbox One is not new

 

Also, weren't Sony the individuals who brought that whole multimedia movement to the consoles? Music with PS1 and Movies with PS2? So ANY company after the ps1 who had any form of that on their consoles copied Sony and added it to their repertoire, correct?

 

Weren't Sony the ones who had built in rumble INSIDE their controllers and new Buttons known today as R2 and L2? Any companies who added stuff like this after ps1 copied Sony and added them to their repertoire, correct?

 

Also, weren't Sony the individuals who brought DUAL analog sticks? Weren't they also the individuals who added buttons under both of them known as L3 and R3 aswell? ANY other company who tried to replicate Sony's controller by adding Dual analog sticks and adding L3 and R3 like buttons under them copied Sony and added the ideas to their repertoire, correct?

 

So what are your thoughts on that? Why does everybody always talk like Sony are the only company who copies while ignoring when other companies do the same?

 

whatever though..

Why are you attacking my earlier post while quoting my post that pretty much agrees with you?  Anyway, I'll play.  It's 4am, I'm just getting home from work, and I need to wind down.  Here we go.

 

Microsoft decided to put Kinect with every console instead of as a peripheral owned by just a percentage of the consumer.  That's why I think it can potentially help the Xbox One carve its own identity.....maybe.  Like I said, it remains to be seen.  Still, Microsoft is betting the farm on the peripheral just like how the Wii U is betting it all on the touchscreen controller.  Those two companies are going all out.  Maybe that touch thing on the PS4's controller is what will make that console stand out.  I don't know.  So, as I said in the post you quoted, it remains to be seen.  We'll just have to wait and see after the consoles arrive.  I don't want to speak too soon.

The Sega Dreamcast also had motion controls like that Xavix device you showed (I saw that video before, btw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sslphF3BD4c.  I guess you could argue that it had some of the features that the Wii had but then the Wii Remote functioned as a pointer, a gun, a controller, a steering wheel, etc.  I guess Nintendo did something that Xavix thingy didn't.  I don't know.  I never even saw one in retail but that video is evidence that there was a fully motion control dedicated console before the Wii.

Sony Playstations weren't the first gaming consoles to offer the ability to play music CDs.  The PS2 wasn't the first console that played movies either so you are incorrect on that one.

I'll give them the L3/R3 thing, though.  Sony did that first.  Yay, Sony!  It wasn't with the controller that came packed with the PS1 back in 1995 but it was still a great addition to the Dual Analog/Dual Shock controllers that Sony released about a year later, though.

 

We can turn this into a "who did what first" debate but that wasn't the point of any of my posts.  My posts were about consoles that just added more horsepower vs. consoles that took risks.  I don't see how any of the three Playstations took risks.  They just added better graphics and did what was already successful.  When Nintendo went analog with the N64, that was risky.  When they made the Gamecube, they played it safe.  With the Wii and Wii U, they took risks.  With the DS, they took risks. With the 3DS, they just added more horsepower.  Like I said, there's nothing wrong with that.  A lot of gamers are more than happy with that. It's not an insult.

Bundling Kinect with every Xbox One is a risk, if you ask me. 



attaboy said:
enditall727 said:
attaboy said:
Some devices actually are just progressions of what is already available. I'd say the SNES was a beefed up Nes but I wouldn't say the Wii was a beefed up Gamecube. I wouldn't say that the DS was just a more powerful GBA but I would say that the 3DS was just a more powerful DS. It's not a bad thing.

To be honest, I made a big deal earlier but it remains to be seen if the PS4 and Xbox One are just natural progression or huge leaps from the previously laid groundwork. I do think M$'s focus on Kinect (for better or worse) is what will make that console unique. We'll see.


So you agree that the Wii was basically on par with its former Gamecube, correct? Everybody gives credit to Nintendo and the Wii for its full motion controls. I love Nintendo but everybody claimed that Nintendo was innovative with the full motion control thing but didn't Nintendo copy the Xavix in that area?

 

So since you tried to single out Sony with the whole taking everybody elses ideas and adding it to their repertoire thing, what would you say about Nintendo and the Wii?

 

Kinect was also on the 360 so the Kinect on Xbox One is not new

 

Also, weren't Sony the individuals who brought that whole multimedia movement to the consoles? Music with PS1 and Movies with PS2? So ANY company after the ps1 who had any form of that on their consoles copied Sony and added it to their repertoire, correct?

 

Weren't Sony the ones who had built in rumble INSIDE their controllers and new Buttons known today as R2 and L2? Any companies who added stuff like this after ps1 copied Sony and added them to their repertoire, correct?

 

Also, weren't Sony the individuals who brought DUAL analog sticks? Weren't they also the individuals who added buttons under both of them known as L3 and R3 aswell? ANY other company who tried to replicate Sony's controller by adding Dual analog sticks and adding L3 and R3 like buttons under them copied Sony and added the ideas to their repertoire, correct?

 

So what are your thoughts on that? Why does everybody always talk like Sony are the only company who copies while ignoring when other companies do the same?

 

whatever though..

Why are you attacking my earlier post while quoting my post that pretty much agrees with you?  Anyway, I'll play.  It's 4am, I'm just getting home from work, and I need to wind down.  Here we go.

 

Microsoft decided to put Kinect with every console instead of as a peripheral owned by just a percentage of the consumer.  That's why I think it can potentially help the Xbox One carve its own identity.....maybe.  Like I said, it remains to be seen.  Still, Microsoft is betting the farm on the peripheral just like how the Wii U is betting it all on the touchscreen controller.  Those two companies are going all out.  Maybe that touch thing on the PS4's controller is what will make that console stand out.  I don't know.  So, as I said in the post you quoted, it remains to be seen.  We'll just have to wait and see after the consoles arrive.  I don't want to speak too soon.

The Sega Dreamcast also had motion controls like that Xavix device you showed (I saw that video before, btw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sslphF3BD4c.  I guess you could argue that it had some of the features that the Wii had but then the Wii Remote functioned as a pointer, a gun, a controller, a steering wheel, etc.  I guess Nintendo did something that Xavix thingy didn't.  I don't know.  I never even saw one in retail but that video is evidence that there was a fully motion control dedicated console before the Wii.

Sony Playstations weren't the first gaming consoles to offer the ability to play music CDs.  The PS2 wasn't the first console that played movies either so you are incorrect on that one.

I'll give them the L3/R3 thing, though.  Sony did that first.  Yay, Sony!  It wasn't with the controller that came packed with the PS1 back in 1995 but it was still a great addition to the Dual Analog/Dual Shock controllers that Sony released about a year later, though.

 

We can turn this into a "who did what first" debate but that wasn't the point of any of my posts.  My posts were about consoles that just added more horsepower vs. consoles that took risks.  I don't see how any of the three Playstations took risks.  They just added better graphics and did what was already successful.  When Nintendo went analog with the N64, that was risky.  When they made the Gamecube, they played it safe.  With the Wii and Wii U, they took risks.  With the DS, they took risks. With the 3DS, they just added more horsepower.  Like I said, there's nothing wrong with that.  A lot of gamers are more than happy with that. It's not an insult.

Bundling Kinect with every Xbox One is a risk, if you ask me. 


Attacking?

 

Making a Reply is "attacking"? Lol

 

Well you didn't quote me so it seemed like you were trying to avoid my comment so that's why i just replied to this one

 

I would'nt really say that Kinect and and the Gamepad are in the same boat because the Gamepad is the main controller for Wii U and Kinect is not fot the Xbox

 

Hmm i didn't know that the Dreamcast had a motion controller thingy but it's not a full motion control based console.

 

I'm only awear of the Sega Saturn and PS1 playing music CD's but they launched at around the same time so somebody can't really say that Sony got that from Sega. They brought that on their own. Also, I ment DVD's when i said movies but what other gaming console played DVD's/Movies? I didn't know that somebody else did it. Sony popularized it but who else supported DVD's/Movies though?

 

I also don't believe that Kinect will be bundled with each console. It will be for launch but i believe they will announce a Kinectless Xbox One sooner or later



You can say that about any next gen system



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enditall727 said:
 


Attacking?

 

Making a Reply is "attacking"? Lol

 

Well you didn't quote me so it seemed like you were trying to avoid my comment so that's why i just replied to this one

 

I would'nt really say that Kinect and and the Gamepad are in the same boat because the Gamepad is the main controller for Wii U and Kinect is not fot the Xbox

 

Hmm i didn't know that the Dreamcast had a motion controller thingy but it's not a full motion control based console.

 

I'm only awear of the Sega Saturn and PS1 playing music CD's but they launched at around the same time so somebody can't really say that Sony got that from Sega. They brought that on their own. Also, I ment DVD's when i said movies but what other gaming console played DVD's/Movies? I didn't know that somebody else did it. Sony popularized it but who else supported DVD's/Movies though?

 

I also don't believe that Kinect will be bundled with each console. It will be for launch but i believe they will announce a Kinectless Xbox One sooner or later


Well, maybe "attacking" was too strong of a word. Lol!  Long night at work.

But, yeah, Sega CD, CD-i, 3DO, Turbo Duo, and a probably a few consoles I can't even think of (Jaguar CD?) all played music CD's before Playstation was even a thing.  Sony was the first DVD movie playing console so I was really particular not to mention DVD's.  I'm sneaky like that.  But I know the Phillips CD-i played a format called VCDs aka Video CDs.  It never caught on, though.

I'm hoping Microsoft sticks to their guns with the Kinect 2.0 even though it really drives up the price of the Xbox One.  That's why I consider it a risk.  I know a lot of people were disappointed with Kinect but from what I've seen, Kinect 2.0 does a lot of what Kinect was supposed to do.  Even if the trade-off costs them sales, I hope they don't ditch the idea because I kinda like the idea of each console being kinda unique during the 8th gen.  I owned everything during the 7th gen and most of the time I was deciding between buying game X on PS3 or 360.  Not really much incentive to buy two consoles if they share 90% of the same games.

Oh, and sorry about not quoting you.  I think I felt guilty about the earlier post attacking Sony so I threw out a random apology post really directed at no one.  Sony's a cool company.  I have nothing against them.  They gave me too many good times.  Heck, there isn't a Sony gaming console made since 1995 that I didn't buy at least twice (except the Vita--I only own one).  Wasn't avoiding you.  I'm really a pretty nice guy.  The internet just makes me evil! 

It's almost 9am.  I'm only awake because my girlfriend called.  Coasting off of maybe four hours of sleep so I'm gonna crash. Sorry bout writing a book.  Have a good morning, mate!

*goes back to bed*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vcd



ethomaz said:
Zappykins said:
That's why my new nickname for the PS4 is the Xbox 720. It has GD memory like the Xbox 360, allows you to share, like the Xbox 360 , has tones of shooters like the Xbox 360, is more like a PC and the Xbox 360 the PS3, has an optimal camera accessory thing like the Xbox 360, etc.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, I do find a little bit of humor that Sony has made their new console virtually an upgraded X360 aka the Xbox 720.

And MS downgraded to Xbox 180 or Xbox 1?

Ha ha, no, they just made a few minor changes to appease some snolls and help GameStop and other retails.  I still don't see how they can have much of a future though, sadly.

But mimicry is one of the best forms of flattery! I hope people have live of fun with with PlayStation Live network.

I know it's hard to understand, innovations often are, that why the Xbox One is a true new gen console.  

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Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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OdinHades said:
CGI-Quality said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Well if you just look at it simply,, yes.

Again I ask this, wouldn't that apply to both the PS4 and the X1?


No, the Xbox One has rocket science level stuff. 


No because kinect is not a add on, it is in every system sold. DIFFERNCE YOU SEE>