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enditall727 on 20 August 2013
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attaboy said:
enditall727 said:
attaboy said:
Some devices actually are just progressions of what is already available. I'd say the SNES was a beefed up Nes but I wouldn't say the Wii was a beefed up Gamecube. I wouldn't say that the DS was just a more powerful GBA but I would say that the 3DS was just a more powerful DS. It's not a bad thing.

To be honest, I made a big deal earlier but it remains to be seen if the PS4 and Xbox One are just natural progression or huge leaps from the previously laid groundwork. I do think M$'s focus on Kinect (for better or worse) is what will make that console unique. We'll see.


So you agree that the Wii was basically on par with its former Gamecube, correct? Everybody gives credit to Nintendo and the Wii for its full motion controls. I love Nintendo but everybody claimed that Nintendo was innovative with the full motion control thing but didn't Nintendo copy the Xavix in that area?

 

So since you tried to single out Sony with the whole taking everybody elses ideas and adding it to their repertoire thing, what would you say about Nintendo and the Wii?

 

Kinect was also on the 360 so the Kinect on Xbox One is not new

 

Also, weren't Sony the individuals who brought that whole multimedia movement to the consoles? Music with PS1 and Movies with PS2? So ANY company after the ps1 who had any form of that on their consoles copied Sony and added it to their repertoire, correct?

 

Weren't Sony the ones who had built in rumble INSIDE their controllers and new Buttons known today as R2 and L2? Any companies who added stuff like this after ps1 copied Sony and added them to their repertoire, correct?

 

Also, weren't Sony the individuals who brought DUAL analog sticks? Weren't they also the individuals who added buttons under both of them known as L3 and R3 aswell? ANY other company who tried to replicate Sony's controller by adding Dual analog sticks and adding L3 and R3 like buttons under them copied Sony and added the ideas to their repertoire, correct?

 

So what are your thoughts on that? Why does everybody always talk like Sony are the only company who copies while ignoring when other companies do the same?

 

whatever though..

Why are you attacking my earlier post while quoting my post that pretty much agrees with you?  Anyway, I'll play.  It's 4am, I'm just getting home from work, and I need to wind down.  Here we go.

 

Microsoft decided to put Kinect with every console instead of as a peripheral owned by just a percentage of the consumer.  That's why I think it can potentially help the Xbox One carve its own identity.....maybe.  Like I said, it remains to be seen.  Still, Microsoft is betting the farm on the peripheral just like how the Wii U is betting it all on the touchscreen controller.  Those two companies are going all out.  Maybe that touch thing on the PS4's controller is what will make that console stand out.  I don't know.  So, as I said in the post you quoted, it remains to be seen.  We'll just have to wait and see after the consoles arrive.  I don't want to speak too soon.

The Sega Dreamcast also had motion controls like that Xavix device you showed (I saw that video before, btw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sslphF3BD4c.  I guess you could argue that it had some of the features that the Wii had but then the Wii Remote functioned as a pointer, a gun, a controller, a steering wheel, etc.  I guess Nintendo did something that Xavix thingy didn't.  I don't know.  I never even saw one in retail but that video is evidence that there was a fully motion control dedicated console before the Wii.

Sony Playstations weren't the first gaming consoles to offer the ability to play music CDs.  The PS2 wasn't the first console that played movies either so you are incorrect on that one.

I'll give them the L3/R3 thing, though.  Sony did that first.  Yay, Sony!  It wasn't with the controller that came packed with the PS1 back in 1995 but it was still a great addition to the Dual Analog/Dual Shock controllers that Sony released about a year later, though.

 

We can turn this into a "who did what first" debate but that wasn't the point of any of my posts.  My posts were about consoles that just added more horsepower vs. consoles that took risks.  I don't see how any of the three Playstations took risks.  They just added better graphics and did what was already successful.  When Nintendo went analog with the N64, that was risky.  When they made the Gamecube, they played it safe.  With the Wii and Wii U, they took risks.  With the DS, they took risks. With the 3DS, they just added more horsepower.  Like I said, there's nothing wrong with that.  A lot of gamers are more than happy with that. It's not an insult.

Bundling Kinect with every Xbox One is a risk, if you ask me. 


Attacking?

 

Making a Reply is "attacking"? Lol

 

Well you didn't quote me so it seemed like you were trying to avoid my comment so that's why i just replied to this one

 

I would'nt really say that Kinect and and the Gamepad are in the same boat because the Gamepad is the main controller for Wii U and Kinect is not fot the Xbox

 

Hmm i didn't know that the Dreamcast had a motion controller thingy but it's not a full motion control based console.

 

I'm only awear of the Sega Saturn and PS1 playing music CD's but they launched at around the same time so somebody can't really say that Sony got that from Sega. They brought that on their own. Also, I ment DVD's when i said movies but what other gaming console played DVD's/Movies? I didn't know that somebody else did it. Sony popularized it but who else supported DVD's/Movies though?

 

I also don't believe that Kinect will be bundled with each console. It will be for launch but i believe they will announce a Kinectless Xbox One sooner or later