I think many on there think Buttocks is Adam Sessler or someone even more privy to info.  But there's a small group of people who are right enough to make you seriously wonder.  Like some are probably at like 70% or higher I'd say.  But you're right, most people are just posers who guess randomly or people who scour the site until one of the big posters say something epic lol. 

I just like that they qualify their statements, they admit things change quickly or they state whenever they're making a jump in logic. 

And don't we have someone on this site who is supposed to be a higher up in Gamestop who confirmed that PS4 is doing significantly better?  Can someone help me out with the name, I'm drawing a ridiculous blank...

I don't know. If CB were someone as well-known as Adam Sessler, we would have known already. But who knows.

$399 vs $499 for nearly identical hardware. is anyone really surprised?

..that said 4:1 seems high.

Kind of funny... 4 to 1, really? Show me some numbers, not rankings. Units sold (or presold) are what matter. Anybody? Or is this just a fanboy non-sense forum?

Numbers? Last umbers we got were the week of E3 when pre-orders started. 75,000 to 45,000.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251076/ps4-vs-xbox-one-pre-order-totals-to-june-15th-2013/

Probably really, REALLY old data if all other sources (not just preorders) from back before a bunch of these 180s are to be believed.

 I'd love for it to be correct after being burned by the 360 getting next to no non-kinect exclusives post 2010, but as it is I still expect the One to win NA with a good degree of wiggle room, albeit with a smaller total victory gap than what we saw with 360 > PS3, and bigger losses in the rest of the world than what we saw with PS3 > 360.

What Ethomaz said.

I can't imagine actual sales being 4:1 in US. I would like to get a wordlwide sales ratio estimate.

So it wasn't even 2:1 before the 180 but now its 4:1? Yeah makes sense -_-

@CGI-Quality
I'm referring to the numbers JoetheBro posted that had PS4 @ 75,000 preorders and Xbox One @ 45,000 after E3 over two months ago.

Those numbers are right after E3. I'd expect most of them to be from die hard fans. You know, people that buy a system even if it killed their kids? With a few months more of data, the more casual of the core would be preordering. They would be mostly go PS4 but then likely sway with the 180s.

I don't really know, but these are the numbers.