It isn't going to have dev kit functionality at launch, so that shouldn't be listed as a reason to own it THIS Christmas. Same goes for Halo 5.

Extra cost is also added. Kinect is being forced upon everyone at time of purchase, whether they wanted it or not. This was the same case with BluRay when PS3 launched. Yes, it could be argued that it adds overall value for the price, but the entry price is still high regardless.

XBLA is a great point. I will admit that it was by far (In my opinion) the best part of the XBox360. The quality of titles that released on XBLA was top notch. Many well respected titles.

We don't fully know what Cloud Processing will bring, so that comes off more as a optimistic veiwpoint rather than an an actual selling point. You also mention that you believe the noticiable stuff will come in 2-3 years, which brings me back to my first point, which is that if it isn't something for this year, then it isn't really a reason to own it this year.

Other than that I can't argue against anything you said and agree with Dr. Grass that you left out some of the more important features, which will actually be present this year.

Bravo. keep making threads like these. Even when you know people will shoot it down. Its important to not be intimidated by an insecure majority on the internet.

Some of the reasons seem to be a big leap. Yes, the xbox One will someday allow every unit to be used as a dev-kit, but is it then reasonable to assume that Microsoft will allow the Xbox One to be used for mods or have Microsfot said that themselves?

It's unreasonable to list an unconfirmed feature as a major reason to buy the console on Christmas especially considering dev-kit support isn't going to be in the system this year. Why should I be buying it in December for this reason?

Also 3 controllers for no extra cost? I count 2, but even then you're paying more than you otherwise would've if the Kinect weren't bundled.

The PS4 is getting a lot of indie-support also with many exclusives coming out in the first year (though some are also on pc).

And I'm still laughing at the power of the cloud.

Yes Halo will be coming, but not THIS December. I don't see why I shouldn't wait to buy an Xbox One next year and/or buy a PS4 this year instead.

Many of the things on this list can also be said for the ps4 - there's really not much of a difference with the 2 consoles now.

Nobody said anything was wrong with the TC making a pro XBox1 thread, just as there is nothing wrong with someone countering the OP piece by piece.

It is called debate and is what this forum is supposed to be for.

TC listed features that won't be available this Christmas as reasons for why you should own one this Christmas. Does that not warrant someone pointing that out?

As for the "fanboy" thing. He said he comes off as one. He did not call him one.

Yes, maybe you could get him for that (Even though I think banning for use of that word is ridiculous) but no other part of his post was wrong, nor was it bullying.

I think this community is soft.

So someone saying he comes off as a fanboy is bullying and bad, yet you come here and say that everyone who doesn't wholy agree with the OP, not to mention majority of the people on site, are insecure?

Insecure are the ones who get bent out of shape when someone makes a comment they do not like or those who can't handle criticism towards their console of choice.

Nope...you misunderstand.

You are entitled to disagree, but to outright say "You are Wrong!" and tear apart a positive thread is another matter. I like X1 more then PS4, but that doesn't mean I think PS4 is a bad console. 

It will happen. Microsoft lied about the Kinect being depedent and if anyone fell for it I feel sorry for them. They know they want Sonys marketshare and Sony beating them out the game will stop let the truth come out. They admitted it so now they have room to drop the kinect in the press if the gamers choose the PS4 which is most likely whats going to happen.

Stop talking matter-of-factly. For all we know, it was dependent....for the origional vision of what X1 was.

FYI, im glad you dropped the whole "loyalty" sig.....bout time you embraced who you are. I respect that openess.

Read his sig. Hes acting like the Xbone is the most powerful console when its only the second most powerful console and the most expensive. 

Well, if someone says "This is why it is the console to own THIS Christmas!" and half the reasons aren't even available this year, let alone 100% confirmed to be available next year, then how is it right?

Should we just instead say "Oh, well it's just his opinion, leave it be?"

Debate would die and this place would become even more boring. You of all people should understand this. You view this how I view the Yankees.

I'm a Mets fan, so I always find ways to cause conflict with Yankee fans, especially if they say something that just isn't true.