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endimion said:
I don't think this is close to release... Might not even be easy to do this generation... how would they rig all that on the XB ???

or maybe that is what the in out socket next to the Ethernet port on the back of the XB one is for... nobody told me what it was when I asked

but damn if it comes out this gen I better find a new job to finance all my tech needs.... I already want to change my TV and my AVR if I have to buy a projector on top of the XB1 and all the games.... I'll need some extra cash flaw or fuck it I'll skip my vacations :D


Thats the spirit. I will give you my Gamerscore and we can Illumiroom it together. LOL Don't worry my fiance is not the jealous type. lol



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DJEVOLVE said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
It's cool, but at the same time kinda pointless. Why even have the tv to begin with. Why not just a projector. Mixing the two just seems silly. Not to mention any game that requires body tracking would be useless as now the kinect faces the wrong direction. And what about a second HDMI to feed the projector?


Really? I find it hard to believe you even watched the video. This blows away everything I have ever seen. I love it and anyone I show is blown away. You are a very small percentage of people that seems to find something negative to say< Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... I wonder why?

I find it hard to believe you even read my comment? And the best thing you can come up with is jealously? Really? Of what? Something that will never see the light of day? And you act as 1080P projectors don’t exist. 



The Fury said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
It's cool, but at the same time kinda pointless. Why even have the tv to begin with. Why not just a projector. Mixing the two just seems silly. Not to mention any game that requires body tracking would be useless as now the kinect faces the wrong direction. And what about a second HDMI to feed the projector?

Really? I find it hard to believe you even watched the video. This blows away everything I have ever seen. I love it and anyone I show is blown away. You are a very small percentage of people that seems to find something negative to say< Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... I wonder why?

But he's right, I think what was shown is fantastic, the bit where it maps the surroundings, projects it and manipulates it is the best bit but some other parts were a bit pointless. This is because of the distortion caused by your surroundings, I could hardly tell it was going that at first and when it did the film thing at the end it was nigh on unwatchable, in the case of the films bit a projector is the key if you want a big experience (ignoring the idea that there is a big black box in the middle :P).

And like he says, bit useless if you have a game that has Kinect features in it if it's not watching you.

 

All this said looking at the video, can you not jsut use the Kinect as a projector? You don't even need a TV.


Well, I would not say he is right just an opinion.  There was nothing pointless about the presentation because its a proof of concept.  People seem to forget what that means.  Its an Ideal to show how something can be done not something that will be done.  It's directed to show different features but not complete features.  These are specific ideals the developers thought of and made into a proof of concept, that does not mean this is the totallity of how this tech can be applied or what would make actual commercial features if this get released.  

As for the statement that if a game i doing body tracking you cannot use this feature, well duh.  What if you can do one or the other and the person using the device get to choose which feature he feels important or fun.  In other words this is just another extension of your gaming experience, not a replacement.

On the subject of just using the projector without the TV, the key here is that you do not get the extension of your peripheral vision, you just get a bigger display.  The tech is designed to extend your peripheral vision of the environment contained within the game.  this does not work if you just project the game bigger on the wall.  This is the reason why some people miss certain concepts because they do not think about what the presentation is trying to present.



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Machiavellian said:
The Fury said:

But he's right, I think what was shown is fantastic, the bit where it maps the surroundings, projects it and manipulates it is the best bit but some other parts were a bit pointless. This is because of the distortion caused by your surroundings, I could hardly tell it was going that at first and when it did the film thing at the end it was nigh on unwatchable, in the case of the films bit a projector is the key if you want a big experience (ignoring the idea that there is a big black box in the middle :P).

And like he says, bit useless if you have a game that has Kinect features in it if it's not watching you.

 

All this said looking at the video, can you not jsut use the Kinect as a projector? You don't even need a TV.


Well, I would not say he is right just an opinion.  There was nothing pointless about the presentation because its a proof of concept.  People seem to forget what that means.  Its an Ideal to show how something can be done not something that will be done.  It's directed to show different features but not complete features.  These are specific ideals the developers thought of and made into a proof of concept, that does not mean this is the totallity of how this tech can be applied or what would make actual commercial features if this get released.  

As for the statement that if a game i doing body tracking you cannot use this feature, well duh.  What if you can do one or the other and the person using the device get to choose which feature he feels important or fun.  In other words this is just another extension of your gaming experience, not a replacement.

On the subject of just using the projector without the TV, the key here is that you do not get the extension of your peripheral vision, you just get a bigger display.  The tech is designed to extend your peripheral vision of the environment contained within the game.  this does not work if you just project the game bigger on the wall.  This is the reason why some people miss certain concepts because they do not think about what the presentation is trying to present.


Here is the problem and why he complained, it's not on PS4, that simple.



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Mmmfishtacos said:
It's cool, but at the same time kinda pointless. Why even have the tv to begin with. Why not just a projector. Mixing the two just seems silly. Not to mention any game that requires body tracking would be useless as now the kinect faces the wrong direction. And what about a second HDMI to feed the projector?

no it's not silly, it's pretty cool. the difference between this and just a bigger screen is that the bigger screen will stll only show the same picture just in big. with something like this you see the same picture and get extra informations around it.

that's like asking why people like permalite use eyefinity on the pc when they could just play with a projector. the difference is simply extra information you get with extra screens or illuminiroom and not only the same information in bigger.

that's a whole different league if we talk about the quality of the experience. 



crissindahouse said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
It's cool, but at the same time kinda pointless. Why even have the tv to begin with. Why not just a projector. Mixing the two just seems silly. Not to mention any game that requires body tracking would be useless as now the kinect faces the wrong direction. And what about a second HDMI to feed the projector?

no it's not silly, it's pretty cool. the difference between this and just a bigger screen is that the bigger screen will stll only show the same picture just in big. with something like this you see the same picture and get extra informations around it.

that's like asking why people like permalite use eyefinity on the pc when they could just play with a projector. the difference is simply extra information you get with extra screens or illuminiroom and not only the same information in bigger.

that's a whole different league if we talk about the quality of the experience. 

They could do the same thing with a 1080p projector and it would look better. Plus the bezzle of the tv would be gone.



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this is soo awesome. One of the things you show your friends and they want to buy it as well.



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Mmmfishtacos said:
crissindahouse said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
It's cool, but at the same time kinda pointless. Why even have the tv to begin with. Why not just a projector. Mixing the two just seems silly. Not to mention any game that requires body tracking would be useless as now the kinect faces the wrong direction. And what about a second HDMI to feed the projector?

no it's not silly, it's pretty cool. the difference between this and just a bigger screen is that the bigger screen will stll only show the same picture just in big. with something like this you see the same picture and get extra informations around it.

that's like asking why people like permalite use eyefinity on the pc when they could just play with a projector. the difference is simply extra information you get with extra screens or illuminiroom and not only the same information in bigger.

that's a whole different league if we talk about the quality of the experience. 

They could do the same thing with a 1080p projector and it would look better. Plus the bezzle of the tv would be gone.

Could you explain to us how can they do the same thing with a 1080P projector.  Do you even understand what they are doing??  Can you please enlighten us on how you can extend the peripheral perspective being displayed by the primary display.  If your projector is the primary display then it would just display the primary image bigger, it would not extend it.