1. Dude. Seriously, answer one simple question. You said "the lineup is ALL ports or downgraded PS3 games". Is this sentence factualy correct yes or not?

2. "7 games with an average score in the 70's is a lot?" Where did I say a lot? I only mentioned those 7 games to show you that your statement was factually incorrect, which it was, as they are NEITHER ports NOR downgraded ps3 games. I'm buying a 3ds just for pokemon. A single game can be enough for some people to buy a console. The psvita has more than 7 games; those were simply examples of neither ports or downgraded ps3 games. It has tons of other games which are multiplats and as multiplats, they can be played on a psvita.

3. "I've played a bit of Vita at the Gamestop and was not impressed" : You think that's enough to form an educated opinion?

4. "Soul Sacrifice is a lot like Monster Hunter - average" How would you know if you haven't played the damn game? I've spent more than 70 hours playing it.

5. " if reviewers give PSV games meh scores, and say they are meh, or not as good as PS3 versions, then that's what they are." : It doesn't work that way. That's why you see tons of posts by members of this community arguing that metacritic is flawed and that a review is nothing more than a gamer's opinion. Instead one should read the review and not rely on the score. A (or many) bad review does not make a game bad, not enjoyable or not worth buying a system for. People disagree with reviews and reviewers all the time.

6. "Also what does it matter if the PSV has a average rated JRPG in Japan with no plans to localize? I don't read Japanese. At this moment PSV doesn't even have a single JRPG exclusive, don't ignore that and call me ignorant." Because you should have stated that there is not a single exclusive jrpg on psvita in the West. Instead, what you said was "No it's counting, PSV doesn't even have a single exclusive JRPG." Phrase your sentences better.

7. "Also no, PS1 games look amazing on a large LCD, that's how I play them." Debatable. We can make a poll and see what people think who have a psvita. Large LCDs make the pixels look terrible. In a smaller screen the games look much better in my opinion. But like I said, if you're feeling confident, let's make a bet and let vgchartz users decide.

If you don't see that my first point shows that your statement was factually incorrect, please feel free not to respond and waste the time of either one of us.

Also, please tell me which sentence of mine si factually incorrect and suggests that I'm ignorant.

Not to troll (this is my 3rd post in a row), but I just bought my PSP a year ago. I have a catalogue of about 20 games to beat before I upgrade to a PSV.

At this moment in time, PSV doesn't really offer much that makes me want to upgrade. Uncharted, Gravity Rush, and Disgaea 3 look nice, but I'd rather play the much better rated GTA:LCS or Jeane D'Ark then spend $250 on a platform and then $40 more for an average, or slightly above average rated game.

In comparision, I also have a DS with about 15-20 games on the back log. Yet 3DS still interests me. Fire Emblem looks awesome, it's supposedly the best Fire Emblem ever. Tales of the Abyss is a port which I'm really looking forward to, and Resident Evil Revelations is suppose to be the best portable Resident Evil ever, which is just awesome.

I'm tempted to buy a 3DS, and if I did I would put games like this above my backlog on the DS (which also has some great games like DQIX, and Golden Sun). This is why 3DS is just awesome.

Plus, just to beat a dead horse with a stick, I don't own a DS XL, so If I buy a 3DS XL, I can play DS games I already own, in a larger screen. I do not have to rebuy the game again digitally.

So obviously I don't think much of the Vita because I don't see any solid reason to upgrade to it yet. I see a solid reason to upgrade to the 3DS, there are some great 9.5/10 games which I'm dying to play, but again Vita....meh.

I have a similar view towards the PS4/Wii U, and an even more negative view on the One, so don't hate. However Wii U at least has some AAA games planned (like X), and PS4 hasn't even released yet, so give it some time.

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I made this post to clarify why my view on PSV is so negative.

Everything you said here is perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with being more interested in a 3ds. Enjoy your games!

It's amazing how much controversey one negative comment can make.

I'll probably still buy a PSV, just late in life, like I did my PSP, and then I can pick up the system for maybe $100 less, and all the games I want for cheap.

Because you prefer the 3DS's inferior console ports?

Gotcha.

Also, why does the 3DS's backwards compatibility make it "just awesome" but not the Vita's? It may be missing Crisis Core and Kingdom Hearts, but that's about it. Why do you consider digital a disadvantage? PSP games on PSN are pretty cheap now, and if you already have the hard copy, sell it and you should be halfway to funding the purchase of the digital version. Let's not forget PS1 classics either. Vita's screen is also significantly larger and better than the PSP's.

Lastly, you claimed the PS Vita had no exclusive JRPGs. That's obviously a load of bollocks, although I think you may have been referring to the West only. Even if you were, what about Ys: Memories of Celceta, and Persona 4: Golden? (I know it's on PS2, but with its heaps of extra content and a 95 meta I think we can forgive that). I don't even know about the more obscure JRPGs on the system, I'm sure the guys over at the Vita thread could name a lot more than I can.

To be fair, some people simply don't want digital copies for whatever reason (collectors. digital games taking too much space and having to delete games and buy memory cards, fear of losing them if the ps sevrers shut down, being able to sell a game if you end up not liking it, etc). It's a personal preference, so there's no reason arguing about it. I really wish my umds worked on my vita, since even if I try to sell them I'll get around £3 for games (I actually tried when I was skint) that will cost around £20 from the store. Prices have dropped significantly, but unfortunately not for every game (or at least the ones that I want).

Actually the 3DS Resident Evil is the better game compred to the console port, and it was ported to console, not the other way around.

Tales of the Abyss is just a personal preference. I'm not a Persona fan, but I am a Tales fan. It's a game I'm personally looking forward to, but I wouldn't list it as a reason for others to buy a 3DS since it's available for PS2.

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Vita isn't backward compatible, that's the issue. I already own 20+ PSP games, and none are playable on Vita. I have to rebuy digital copies (something else I hate, and I already mentioned why - retail games have value) to play PSP games on Vita.

Why would I ever sell a hard copy of a game which I like? Would you sell a rare book you like because it's free to read an an e-reader? For me it's the exact same idea with retail games. When you own retail, you own more then just the bits of data which make it a game. If the game and money were all that mattered, I could mod my PSP and play everything free, but I don't, so this is a bad arguement.

Persona 4: Golden is a PS2 port. As for Ys, I forgot about that game (not my type of game, so I forgot). Honest mistake.

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So PSV has Killzone and Ys to look forward to right? And a handful of average or slightly above avergae games to play now right? Persona 4 and PS3 ports are also a good investment too right? Wow, big whoop. I'd rather just play my backlog on PSP, and play PS3 games on PS3.

This is some supreme irony.

You could have this same cynical attitude about the 3DS to find to throw a caveat in front of its good games. It's sad.

Actually, I'd say LBP PlayStation Vita is the definitive version of the game. Uncharted has the most actual exploration of any of the Uncharted games (though it's lost the cinematic excitement of the Naughty Dog games), it's a completely different experience to the other Uncharteds and some say with the exploration, that it actually hits a note that the PS3 games missed (though not me, Uncharted 2 is still my favourite!) and KillZone looks like it's going to be the best KillZone to date. I'm so stoked for that!.

Also there's the what's looking like the definitive version of Rayman Legends coming (all the Wii U features which the PS3/360 versions don't have and Vita exclusive content on top), Tearaway looks like Media Molecule are doing games that just aren't possible on any other format.

The fact that so many Vita games are on PS3 is a bit of a draw back, until you realise you can't pop your PS3 and TV in your pocket and play those games on the train/plane/at work/etc. The main place I play Vita though is in my front room. It frees up the TV and the sleep button makes it so convenient for pausing a game, and being able to jump straight back into it instantly later on.

I think the PS4 remote play has the potential to be mind blowing if Sony don't mess it up. It's certainly the biggest reason for me atm to buy a PS4 haha!

Great thread! But it completely misses the biggest problem. VITA HAZ NO GAEMZ!

The 3DS version of Resident Evil Revelations is the better version? Do you mind explaining that one? It doesn't matter which way the game was ported, it still took advantage of the increased hardware power.

So there's not a single HD remake on the PS Vita that you are a fan of? You're being very critical of HD remakes on the PS Vita, so I'm wondering why Tales of the Abyss on the 3DS is suddenly not only an exception, but one of three games that you are most interested in on 3DS.

If I was cheap enough to complain about having to buy a digital version, then yes, I'd sell the original, because playing the game on my new system matters more than keeping the old one on my shelf. If selling the original copy did bother me that much, then I'd just pay the measly £8 for the digital version and not write off an entire games system because of it.

I wouldn't consider Persona 4: Golden a port, the "Golden" sub-title isn't for show. I already acknowledged that Persona 4 was also on the PS2, and explained why this wasn't much of a problem. Those who played the game on the PS2 have a tonne of incentives to play Persona 4: Golden. Considering you're not a Persona fan, it's unlikely that you would have played Persona 4 on the PS2 anyway. Why not enjoy the most definitive version by far on the PS Vita?

Like I said, Ys is just one JRPG that I could recall.

Just Killzone and Ys? The list is in the OP. I'm also looking forward to Tearaway, Ragnarok Odyssey Ace (whoops, another JRPG) and Freedom Wars, that's excluding HD remakes or multiplatform games just to keep you happy. Ports on the 3DS are clearly good investments for you, so why can't they be good investments for me on the Vita? The list of games in the OP (even if they are portable / definitive versions of ports or multiplatform games), the games I've mentioned in this post so far and the backlog of PSP and PSOne classics are more than worth the £120 I paid for the system, yes. Hell, Persona 4: Golden was worth it alone. I owned other systems for years before a game of that level of quality came out.