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Michael-5 said:
naruball said:
Michael-5 said:

I love replaying old games, but why would you pay $250 for a console, only to buy the game again? Seems redundant, why not just beat the version you already own?

What games on Vita aren't ports? Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Resistance, Unit 13? Not much....

Of course I don't have a Vita, I have a PSP, it's much better. Ignorance? LOL No it's counting, PSV doesn't even have a single exclusive JRPG.. and it's biggest original games are washed down PS3 franchises. PSP had Crisis Core, Jeanne D'Ark, The 3rd Birthday etc. It didn't rely on Grand Theft Auto and God of War, like PSV relies on Uncharted and Killzone.

So tell me, why own a Vita if you already have the ports, and if you have a PS3? All Vita is is a second PS3 that's more limited, but portable. ATM you're paying a lot of money to play the exact same games you own (if your primary reasons are ports and PS3 multiplat games). This to me seems like a waste, and judging from its sales, most agree with me.

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Look, I don't mean to spoil the party, clearly people who like the PSV love it. I'm just giving my 2 cents. The OP gave a list of games, and said "this is why you should have a PSVita." The title clearly is telling me that I should have a PSV, and I'm just saying I don't because the lineup is all ports or downgraded PS3 games.

 

 


I stand by my point that your post displays remarkable ignorance. Also, the bolded statement is factually incorrect. Not all the games are ports or have anything to do with ps3 games.

1. Soul Sacrifice: neither port or downgraded ps3 game

2. Gravity Rush: neither

3. Escape Plan: neither

4. Lumines: neither

5. Smartas: neither

6. Unit 13: neither

7. Uncharted: FFF (not listed): neither (has nothing to do with Uncharted gameplay on ps3).

Not sure about the rest.

You haven't played these games and thus have no idea whether the system is worth it for these games alone. Also, how would you know whether Assassin's Creed: Liberation (or even Uncharted:GA) is a downgraded ps3 game? Have you played it? How can you call the system a waste with no educated opinion?

"why not just beat the version you already own?": as I mentioned, psone classics look bad on a big tv screen, so neither a psone console nor a ps3 are a good enough option for many gamers. Psp and psvita are the superior devices to play them at the moment. Plus, not every psvita owner has a (working) ps3 or psone. Should they look on ebay for a psone or buy a ps3 to play psone games?

"What games on Vita aren't ports? Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Resistance, Unit 13? Not much....": factually incorrect as stated above, but also, why does it matter? People play and enjoy ports all the time. Just because Sound Shapes or Guacamelee are also available on ps3, doesn't make them any less enjoyable on psvita and according to some people (including myself), they are a better fit for a handheld rather than a console. You can't play either in your bed, on the train, on a break at work or uni. Vita is the only option.

"No it's counting, PSV doesn't even have a single exclusive JRPG": in the west sure, but in Japan too? Are you sure about that?

"All Vita is is a second PS3 that's more limited, but portable.": this is why I said you're ignorant with such post. You haven't played most if any psvita games yet you call them watered down ps3 games. How would you know? You expressed your opinion and I express mine,  with facts though, because on this topic I am not ignorant. On 3ds and WiiU, even wii that I own, I admit that I am, hence why I don't call any system a waste.

I don't like games like Halo or the milking of Mario games; as a result, I haven't bought a 360 or a wiiu/3ds (will buy a 3ds for pokemon though). However, I'm well aware that just because I don't like them or don't think highly of them, that doesn't make the games or the consoles a waste. Just not for me. Also, your argument about sales as a proof of quality has been proven several times weak. There are many reasons psvita is doing bad. It still doesn't mean that gamers see it as a waste (some refuse to buy till it gets a price cut, others because of the memory cards, others don't have the funds, others already have too many games to play already on other systems, others are waiting for localization of jrpgs released in Japan, etc). Simply put, for many gamers 3ds seems like the better deal, not 3ds the best thing since sliced bread and psvita a piece of garbage (I'm not suggesting you said that).

No one said you can't express your opinion, but when you post factually incorrect statements, don't expect people not to give their opinion on your opinion.

Now I think you're being ignorant, every single game you mentioned is average or even below average, nothing special at all, nothing in comparision to the 90+ rated games on PSP. Even Uncharted, compred to the console games it's meh from what I played, and it's metascore is only 80, where Uncharted's typically score above 90, even above 95.

Plus you only mentioned 7 games, 3DS has 10 unique games all with a higher score above the best rated game you named (Luminies is 83). PSP has 16 games with a better score...

Factually incorrect? Listen to what you're saying. 7 games with an average score in the 70's is a lot? PSP and 3DS have dozens and dozens of games which fit this category, many many more then the Vita. Vita has less exclusive games then the Sega Gamegear at this point, that's a fact.

I've played a bit of Vita at the Gamestop and was not impressed. Also you don't need to play most of the games you mentioned, Luminies is similar to the PSP version - nothing special, Soul Sacrifice is a lot like Monster Hunter - average, and watch any review and you'll see that many reviers will state that Uncharted on Vita is not as good as on PS3, but still good.

You only need to play Assassin's Creed for Vita for a couple minutes to see how acurate reviews are. No educated opinion? This is why people watch reviews, and if reviewers give PSV games meh scores, and say they are meh, or not as good as PS3 versions, then that's what they are.

Also what does it matter if the PSV has a average rated JRPG in Japan with no plans to localize? I don't read Japanese. At this moment PSV doesn't even have a single JRPG exclusive, don't ignore that and call me ignorant.

Also no, PS1 games look amazing on a large LCD, that's how I play them.

Nothing I said was incorrect, you just can't accept.


1. Dude. Seriously, answer one simple question. You said "the lineup is ALL ports or downgraded PS3 games". Is this sentence factualy correct yes or not?

2. "7 games with an average score in the 70's is a lot?" Where did I say a lot? I only mentioned those 7 games to show you that your statement was factually incorrect, which it was, as they are NEITHER ports NOR downgraded ps3 games. I'm buying a 3ds just for pokemon. A single game can be enough for some people to buy a console. The psvita has more than 7 games; those were simply examples of neither ports or downgraded ps3 games. It has tons of other games which are multiplats and as multiplats, they can be played on a psvita.

3. "I've played a bit of Vita at the Gamestop and was not impressed" : You think that's enough to form an educated opinion?

4. "Soul Sacrifice is a lot like Monster Hunter - average" How would you know if you haven't played the damn game? I've spent more than 70 hours playing it.

5. " if reviewers give PSV games meh scores, and say they are meh, or not as good as PS3 versions, then that's what they are." : It doesn't work that way. That's why you see tons of posts by members of this community arguing that metacritic is flawed and that a review is nothing more than a gamer's opinion. Instead one should read the review and not rely on the score. A (or many) bad review does not make a game bad, not enjoyable or not worth buying a system for. People disagree with reviews and reviewers all the time.

6. "Also what does it matter if the PSV has a average rated JRPG in Japan with no plans to localize? I don't read Japanese. At this moment PSV doesn't even have a single JRPG exclusive, don't ignore that and call me ignorant." Because you should have stated that there is not a single exclusive jrpg on psvita in the West. Instead, what you said was "No it's counting, PSV doesn't even have a single exclusive JRPG." Phrase your sentences better.

7. "Also no, PS1 games look amazing on a large LCD, that's how I play them." Debatable. We can make a poll and see what people think who have a psvita. Large LCDs make the pixels look terrible. In a smaller screen the games look much better in my opinion. But like I said, if you're feeling confident, let's make a bet and let vgchartz users decide.

If you don't see that my first point shows that your statement was factually incorrect, please feel free not to respond and waste the time of either one of us.

Also, please tell me which sentence of mine si factually incorrect and suggests that I'm ignorant.