My friends and I were going through actors who could pull of Bruce Wayne..and When we got to John Hamm...my God it was too perfect. The suave, the swag, the CHIN! This is a man that looks like he can hold his own against Henry Cavil

this could be good,if it's done right and taken seriously. My two favorite comic book characters in one movie is a dream come true.

Scott Adkins would be the perfect Batman in my opinion. I am getting tired of there boring stiff Batman actors they have been having. As much as I enjoyed Bale...he was well...boring. Stiff as a board when fighting and moving....when Batman is a world class Martial Artist and Gymnast and he never portrayed any real detective skills.

This will be a good chance for them if done right!

being a writer myself.. if i was writing this film.. or if I can interpret what Zack Snyder meant, when he said they are not adapting it but using the quote "I want you to remember clark...." as a reference for MoS 2.. I assume they are introducing Batman as an antagonist against superman (the only guy who beat Superman) and hopefully will also show Bruce wayne and Lex Luthor flexing their money muscles against each other...

I'm excited yet worried at same time.

I love Superman, and Batman is awesome too, but I hate how they make every villain/superhero ect into just a meathead when batman is involved.

I mean superman for example is depicted as basically the smartest man in the universe at many times, yet when other superheroes get involved, like in justice league, and ESPECIALLY whenever batman is around, they turn Superman into basically just a hulk. He just takes big hits and punches people.

It happens in every adaptation I've seen with Batman and any superhero team up. Batman always is 100% the brains and whatever the other person is is only used for their superpowers, they have zero brains when batman comes around.

I really hope they don't nerf superman to make batman seem awesome.

Thats actually an interesting observation. I never really paid much attention to that but you are right. Pretty much every writer who deals with Batman and Superman together is guilty of this. I would also like to see Superman not get dumbed down for Batman, obviously he wouldn't be as intelligent as batman but he doesn't have to be reduced to a dumb jock.

...but, within the context of the Man of Steel universe, Superman doesn't seem all that smart... or atleast there wasn't much evidence of his intelligence in that film. At no point in MoS do we see Superman solving problems with creative thinking. Pretty much every problem is solved by brute strength or punches to the face. In that case, it would be consistent with the universe if Superman was easily outsmarted by Batman.

The only way I will take this seriously is if Bale returns as Batman (who I believe is the best Bruce Wayne/Batman to date). He's the only one thus far to elevate Batman to the "pure awesome" level with people across every demographic, unlike the others.

One movie is always hard to get a character down completely, especially when dealing with superman.  I mean he has x-ray vision, heat vision, super breath, super strength, invulnerability, super smart, power by sun, weak to kyrptonite, ect.  So its not surprising they didn't feel the need to have him memorize an encyclopedia in seconds for you on screen, not to mention he was fighting basically a muscle head military guy.  If the villian was someone like Braniac or Luther they could showcase his smarts better.

But ignore that.  My main point comes back to a great example  "The Avengers"  

This was from my memory the first real superhero mashup hollywood movie.  Once in a while you would get a cameo or something in past movies, but this was first were we had multiple stand alone comic heroes headline staring in a movie.  And it did it great.  WHY?  Because it didnt' change any character to fit into another world.  Thor, Iron Man, Cap, ect were all how I remembered them in their own stand alone movies.  They didn't change their dialogue to fit another characters.  They didnt' change their outfits to better match anothers.  They didnt' make one stronger or weaker to help the person stand out more or not steal the show.  They essentially kept the characters true to themselves and didn't try to fit them into anothers world, but instead created a world where they could all co-exist.

Batman adaptations mostly fail in this.  They never take Batman, Flash, Superman, ect and put them in a neutral world, they instead take Superman, Flash, ect and put them in Batmans world.

But this isn't a comic, nor is it a cartoon. It's a full blown live action movie, and you can't do live action movies like you do cartoons. Just look at the Dark Knight Trilogy; those flicks weren't treated as cartoons, and benefited for it. And look at ALL the other super hero movies; they've moved away from the cartoonish (yellow spandex anyone?) and are better for it. The destruction in Man of Steel embraced the cartoonish.

And I'm not NOT calling this a Superman movie, I'm calling it a bad Superman movie. Had it been another kind of movie it would have been cool, but it just doesn't suit a realistic "darker" superman. He killed THOUSANDS of people, and let another TEN OF THOUSANDS die. Does that really sound like sups?

And I totally agree that the chemistry has to be absolutely perfect between sups and bats, and that's one of the things that has me worried. How much chemistry were there really between folks in MoS? Not all that much. I don't think the director can deliver that.

When translating comics to movies you have to adept the source material, which they did in places of MoS - but they failed in other places. They adapted the origins of Superman, and the destruction of Krypton, but they neglected to adept all the fighting. And that's one of my points; they failed to adapt certain crucial points of the story in the transition to a more realistic take of Superman. And you're right about the Avengers Universe being far more cartoony - but they're consistently so. They've managed to build something realistic withing the parameters of their universe, and that's why those movies work so well. As has TDK trilogy; those movies were very consistent, whereas MoS weren't. They tried to go for a more realistic approach but mixed it up with cartoonish violence. That's a pretty bad mix.

And you bring up another worrying point; will this Batman be from TDK Universe? Because that universe does NOT mix well with the one established in MoS. Realism vs Realistic Cartoons sort of... So they either have to come up with a brand new Batman, ignoring the WHOLE of TDK, and that means a new back ground story and introduction, which means it'll be more of a Batman movie than anything else... All I see is impending failure.