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Goatseye on 13 March 2015
TiagoCosta said:
Goatseye said:
TiagoCosta said:
They need a jp studio, to expand. They are really lacking on this department, mistwalker should have been first party, Microsoft helped them after all.

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Japanese studios don't usually do gaming business with Western publishers in terms of being merged or acquired by them.

There are no such thing as Ubisoft/EA/Activision/2K Japanese studio. But you'll see SE Crystal Dynamics/Eidos, Capcom Vancouver, Sega (Football Manager studio), Nintendo Retro, etc...

I don't think their business laws are/been friendly to foreign investment. Especially now with Abe.

Microsoft got lots of deals over the years, atm with platinum for example.. Square enix deals (not eidos), capcom (not the western studio), sega (not the western studios)... 

Mistawalker exists thanks to MS, cave lived thanks to MS... I could continue. 

Most of their investments with Japanese studios turned out bad in terms of sale. Then, MS had/has to pay what PS and Nintendo (sometimes) get for free.

The biggest title published by MS that's from a Japanese company is Dead Rising. That says a lot.



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TiagoCosta on 13 March 2015

 

Goatseye said:

Most of their investments with Japanese studios turned out bad in terms of sale. Then, MS had/has to pay what PS and Nintendo (sometimes) get for free.

The biggest title published by MS that's from a Japanese company is Dead Rising. That says a lot.


It gave 360 diversity, which made it sell well. 

It can't get more mainstream than zombies. 



Goatseye on 13 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Goatseye said:
TiagoCosta said:

Microsoft got lots of deals over the years, atm with platinum for example.. Square enix deals (not eidos), capcom (not the western studio), sega (not the western studios)... 

Mistawalker exists thanks to MS, cave lived thanks to MS... I could continue. 

Most of their investments with Japanese studios turned out bad in terms of sale. Then, MS had/has to pay what PS and Nintendo (sometimes) get for free.

The biggest title published by MS that's from a Japanese company is Dead Rising. That says a lot.

Most Japanese games (except the huge ones) don't sell huge numbers anymore. If they had a Japanese studio as a 1st party and controlled their budgets well then they would be profitable and give the console a boost not only in Japan but elsewhere.

 

I don't think it's easy. Because if it was that easy, MS, Activision, Ubisoft and every other big Western pubs would have one. Think about it.



I LOVE GIGGS on 13 March 2015

The Wolf Among Us first episode was amazing. I loved it. Loved it more than the two seasons of Walking Dead.
The one thing I'm disappointed about is that the achievements are not as easy to get as the two seasons of Walking Dead. I finished the episode but only got 140/200 points. I missed one achievement (60 points) where you have to collect all the books within the episode. I don't know how you collect them and I missed only one! I have to repeat the whole episode to get one book out of twenty or more!



I LOVE GIGGS on 13 March 2015

Because of how much I enjoyed the story, I decided to buy the books from Amazon. This the first time I buy comics/manga from US.

I read more than 100 comics/manga series but most of them are Japanese and the rest (5-10) from Korea.



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roborad on 13 March 2015
FableHero said:
anyone getting the goat simulator in april for xbox one ??


I think I'll give it a go. 



smroadkill15 on 13 March 2015

Anyone see IGN's top 25 Xbox One games? Thoughts? 

It annoys me for not including PvZ and KI, and putting Evolve at #12 ahead of much better games than it. I can understand  no mention of MCC because of the issues. GTA5 being #1 annoys me too for some reason.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/22/igns-top-25-xbox-one-games?page=1



Goatseye on 13 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
 

Why would big wester publishers want one though? They don't want/need Japanese games, they haven't got a system to sell. If they only get western audiences that is fine and since they are multiplat they don't have to worry about the demographics of the install base either.

So without all that console/diversity/marketing and all the other stuff that MS could gain out of it the only interest for other western publishers is to make games and make a profit right? So why have a studio in Japan where the building prices and salary costs are high when they could just go to countries like China and eastern Europe and get cheap labour. On that note, I think MS should set up a studio or buy one in eastern Europe as well, they make some very good games and do it at a much lower budget than western European/US/Japanese studios could ever manage.

I think all the big Western publishers can handle the demands of Japanese development markets if they wanted/allowed to.

If Capcom,SE,Namco can manage, what makes you think that Ubisoft, EA and Activision can't? Additionally, dollar is way stronger than Yen at the moment; with engine developers(Epic, Unity) making it easier to acquire a game engine, I don't see how can it be more expensive than running for example, Black Tusk.

Some games like Tales of series require under a million sales to become profitable as I heard. I'm pretty sure Namco budget for those games don't surpass let's say Fable Legends.



Goatseye on 13 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:

I didn't say they couldn't handle it, just that there would be no point since they could get much cheaper labour elsewhere.

I don't think any other studio in the world would have a vision to make games like Vanquish for example. Their work can't be replicated anywhere else.

I love vanquish by the way.



Goatseye on 13 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:

I didn't say they couldn't handle it, just that there would be no point since they could get much cheaper labour elsewhere.

Besides that, they don't need to diversify. If they can make money with what they are already doing then that is what they should keep doing. Look at Ubisoft, they've got studios around the world (in cheap labour locations like I mentioned) but they mostly just assist with their existing games rather than make new ones. For that, the cheaper the labour the better really.

Microsoft however are trying to sell a whole console, to do that they should have as much variety in their offerings as possible. People will look at Xbox exclusives and think 'why don't they have this genre, or this one?'. Nobody will look at a 3rd party publisher and think that since they are just offering software.

None of the hardware manufacturer make in-house JRPG. Nintendo used to do it, they don't anymore.

Third party makes JRPG for them. People buy PS because of Tales of or other Japanese exclusives though. They look at third party exclusives as well as the decive factor on their purchase.