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o_O.Q said:
nintendo is never the problem


Thats just not true.

Nintendo messed up with the launch of the Wii U, much in the same way they did with the 3DS - a lack of regular game releases

I would be what most people would call a 'Nintendo Fanboy' but am not blind to mistakes that they make. Right now, the success that the 3DS is seeing is their only saving grace. If that didnt pick up in the way that it did they would really be struggling.

But the same could be said for SONY game division. The Vita is failing, but the PS3 saw huge sale numbers late in the generation.

And i think both SONY and Nintendo have the capabilities to turn the Vita and the Wii U into success stories



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People just don't want the thing man. They may down the road but they don't right now. Cut the excuses!



Cleary397 said:
o_O.Q said:
nintendo is never the problem


Thats just not true.

Nintendo messed up with the launch of the Wii U, much in the same way they did with the 3DS - a lack of regular game releases

I would be what most people would call a 'Nintendo Fanboy' but am not blind to mistakes that they make. Right now, the success that the 3DS is seeing is their only saving grace. If that didnt pick up in the way that it did they would really be struggling.

But the same could be said for SONY game division. The Vita is failing, but the PS3 saw huge sale numbers late in the generation.

And i think both SONY and Nintendo have the capabilities to turn the Vita and the Wii U into success stories

I think you missed the sarc...



Well its still nintendo's fault, the Call it WiiU even the retailler think its a Wii addon ...



At my gamestop, it's the same with PS3/PSVita. PS Vita section is right above some of the preowned PS3 games.

DS/3DS are combined too, but 3DS has it's own banner, DS banner is gone. I wonder if any stores still stock PSP, I'd be interested to see if the combine PSP/Vita



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Cleary397 said:

I was browsing around my city center yesterday, in Bristol UK, at all of the game sections trying to hunt for new releases and sales on Wii U and 3DS games and noticed something which could confuse your average person.

In your traditional Gaming store, take GAME for example, all of the game sections have always been clearly labelled and seperated per console, there is a PS3 section, a Xbox 360 section, a Vita section and... wait a minute...

A Wii section and a DS section.

Within the Wii section, there is mainly Wii U games, and some of the more recent Wii releases along with second hand games. I understand that Wii U does not have a huge catalogue yet and probably could not fill up its own section but then i took a look at the DS section.

The games were all jumbled. 3DS and DS games mixed together, and the cases are not that dissimilar, it was confusing to me to find some of the 3DS games and i am an experienced gamer who definitely knows the difference between DS and 3DS.

I think instances like this are creating the brand confusion which everybody has been blaming Nintendo for for the past 2 years.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed anything like this?


I noticed it since launch at MediaWorld in my town, each other platform had its separated section (including 3DS and DS, no mix for them here), but Wii ad Wii U had a unified one, very confusing for casual buyers.
BTW at MediaWorld, since last Xmas, the only gaming demo stand regularly kept working is the Sony one, for PS3 and also Sony 3D TVs, but when the other demo units have problems, whole weeks can pass before somebody fixes them, if it ever happens (this happens for whole classes of showable products, for example they put extreme care to be sure every demo TV is working, but they don't give a damn if demo PC monitors stop working; also, the Apple Mac stand is kept way better than the Windows notebook section).



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Been to a few stores myself where i have seen DS/3DS games thrown together, and whereas 360/ps3 games will all be in alphabetical order, the DS/3DS games were all over the place.

Does not bode well.......... Nintendo should defo have some harsh select words for retailers.



kupomogli said:

Compared to the rest of the Vita games, the sales are "megatons" as you people like to call them. (It's not "as you people like to call them".  I was directly quoting Sony enthusiasts' choice of words in each case before each game released.)  Not hitting a million sales means nothing when they're still the second and third most sold games in the Vita library.

Other than "the price is too high" or "has a lot of great games, but too many ports."  No.  We haven't.  We haven't made a stupid excuse like the Vita not selling because people are mistaking it for the PSP, yet every other week we get a post saying people don't know the difference between the Wii U and the Wii. (I don't agree with the Wii/Wii U confusion, but your argument makes no sense in comparison since PSP/Vita are not remotely similar in name)

Even though I'm a Vita and 3DS fan, yeah.  The Vita fanbase has been too good for that.  Nintendo fans did the same thing with the DS.  People don't know the difference between the DS and 3DS, a system selling atleast 70,000 a week, and once that price drop hit hasn't sold less than 120,000 a week.  Yeah.  People CLEARLY didn't know the difference between the DS and 3DS(/s.)

Being the 2nd and 3rd highest selling game of Vita's library is not saying much when the system hasn't produced a single million seller in going on 2 years on the market.  That means there isn't a single game that 1 in 5 Vita owners agree is worth buying the system for.  By the way, prior to the price cut, the 3DS already had a million seller.  And it wasn't just the price cut that moved systems.  It was the games that released immediately following the price cut.  If price cuts were the end all/be all/cure all of retail, the $99 Gamecube would have thrived, and Nokia's N-Gage would still be on the market since retailers were trying to give the damn thing away just to get it out of their stores when all was said and done.  You don't sit at the top of the hardware chart week in and week out and thrash your competition by an over 6 to 1 ratio just by price alone.  You have to have the software that people want in order to back it up.



Title should be changed to "Retailers are a small part of the problem," as it's pretty crazy to say Nintendo is blameless in the Wii U situation when they made the system.



Nintendo's image is nintendo's problem. Retailers didn't force them to name their new console WiiU. Retailers didn't rush the console out to launch with hardly any games. Nintendo is the one screwing up right now.



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