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o_O.Q on 14 July 2013

a picture of the guy that was "mauled" and "battered" directly after the incident

 

well fk me 

anyways all the peope calling treyvon a thug amuse me... who had a gun? who had an actual criminal record? who pursued who?

finally why exactly was treyvon a street thug?



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badgenome on 14 July 2013
psrock said:

Yeah, because only the winners of fights ever starts fights. Zimmerman was cocky, he tought he could hold Martin until the cops came, he couldnt and got his ass kicked, so he shot him. 

Citation needed.



chapset on 14 July 2013
badgenome said:
psrock said:

Too bad he wasnt being attacked by a man. Too bad he was the one following the child.

A 6'2", 17 year old "child" who would have magically become a man within the next 12 months.

Insisting on calling Martin a child is a naked appeal to emotion, nothing more.

5'11', 160 pound please that ain't some giant man you can't defend yourself from

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/10/george-zimmerman-murder-trayvon-martin-autopsy



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WrathofTank on 14 July 2013
chapset said:
WrathofTank said:
chapset said:
WrathofTank said:
chapset said:
 

if this is enough to justify lethal force, damn I missed a couple occasions to kill people apparently, Zimmerman was 5'7'' and 185 at the time he was getting mauled to death by this ''giant piece of man'' that was Treyvon he didn't know how to kick or punch back his only option was to blow shit up the American way

Did you feel like your life was in danger or that serious bodily harm would occur?  If not then the circumstances are completely different.  Zimmerman was engadged by a Martin and thought that his intent was to cause serious bodily harm or to kill him. 

If Zimmerman hadn't shot Martin, then the beating would have continued and Zimmerman's face would have looked far worse at the very least.

Think of it like this.  You are being attacked by a man that you had never spoken to, or met, you have no idea what they are capable of or what they may do to you.  They only thing you know is that you are now punched and thrown to the pavement.  Don't you think it is logical to think that this man may mean to cause serious bodily harm or to kill you?

If this circumstance happened to me, I would be in fear for my safety and life.  I'm pretty sure you would be to.

I would defend myself, lucky for me I know how to kick and punch I would not go grab my gun unless I see a gun or a knife in the hand or in the proximity of the other guy, I know this sound retarded but here in Canada you kinda need to prove you were in iminante danger to be able to kill someone you can't just say to the cop'' I was losing the fight he didn't have a gun or knife but I shoot him anyway, good day''

The scenario I explained above is how many people are murdered, beaten, raped, etc.  They are attacked unexpectely and usually can't defend themselves properly.

It's great that you feel confident in your ability to defend yourself.  Unfortunately with this type of thinking you would likely become a victim of serious bodily injury or death (if put into the scenario mentioned above).  If you had a gun on you and didn't defend yourself from the attacker it would be unwise.

And this shoot first ask question later mentality is the reason why you have 10-14k murders a year and your for profit prisons are thriving

This shoot first ask questions later mentality really only exist in criminals, not the thoughtful law abiding gun owners.

If you look at our states and cities with heavy gun control laws, you will notice that the crime goes up.  If you look at the cities and states with more gun freedoms you will notice that the crime go down. 

Criminals don't like to attack people that can defend themselves properly.



psrock on 14 July 2013
sc94597 said:
psrock said:
sc94597 said:
psrock said:
killerzX said:
psrock said:
WrathofTank said:
chapset said:
 

 

 

 

 

 


What world Am I living in?

Martin was the one being followed, he was the one with reason to be scared, he was the killed and attacked, not the other way aroud. 

If we are to believe the presented evidence (which by no means is sufficient to tell the whole picture, probabilistically) Trayvon Martin was the initiator of aggression. Being followed is not an act of aggression. By law, that provides Zimmerman (and not Travyon) with the policy of self-defence. It seems to me as if the jury followed the right procedure entailed by the Rule of Law. Whether or not Zimmerman going free is something to cherish is a different matter entirely. However; the legal system working as it should is certainly something to cherish. Rule of Law  (by rationality) > Aribtrary Law (delineated by emotions.) 

What evidence ?

The only thing I know is :

Trayvon was actually trying to run away, Zimmerman was asked to wait for the cops, Travon was near his father's house and Zimmerman was actually back to his car. 

No one knows who confronted whom, but I know Zimmerman had no issue following the kid.

Zimmerman was hardly scared because he knew he had a gun. 

Which is not enough to put somebody in prison for murder. Zimmerman isn't in prison now because the prosecution couldn't pull together a sound enough case for his incarceration. That is the Rule of Law. I'd personally would take 99 bad guys go free if 1 innocent guy is not sent to prison. State aggression is serious, and you have to be certain before you send somebody to prison for a grevious crime like murder. Hencely, juries are unanimous in their decisions in regards to murder cases. This jury unanimously decided that there was more evidence provided for ZImmerman's self-defence case than otherwise. That is a good thing considering the evidence (or lack thereof.) 

Zimmerman being in jail would not bring Mrtin back. I frankly don't know how he can live with himself after he had to shoot some he should have never been involved with to begin with. Martin was not a killer, a thief, he was a teenager going to see his father. 

I care about the life that is lost for nothing more than what he looked like and it kills me inside. 



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badgenome on 14 July 2013
chapset said:

5'11', 160 pound please that ain't some giant man you can't defend yourself from

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/10/george-zimmerman-murder-trayvon-martin-autopsy

Neither is a 6'2" person some giant man you can't defend yourself from. Rather than nitpicking over a few inches, would you care to address the fact that his being legally a minor has fuck all to do with his physical capabilities?



o_O.Q on 14 July 2013
killerzX said:

somebody is throwing or beating me with that rock, im going to use whatever means necessary to defend myself, that includes using a gun.

you guys are so illogical, and emotional driven, instead of rationally


you heard it here first folks advocating the use of a gun to blow someone's head off if they throw a rock at you is "rational"



enditall727 on 14 July 2013
psrock said:
badgenome said:
psrock said:

A 17 year is child no matter what you say. Too bad a grown ass man killed him. He's a child by law, by nature by any which way.

And somehow the grown ass man was the only one who suffered any injuries in the fight. I guess Zimmerman stalked Martin at great length and called the cops on himself, then proceeded to allow Martin to beat his face in before he finally killed him as he planned to all along purely out of a sense of adventure

Yeah, because only the winners of fights ever starts fights. Zimmerman was cocky, he tought he could hold Martin until the cops came, he couldnt and got his ass kicked, so he shot him. 


I feel like Zimmerman could've atleast shot him in the leg or something

 

But the heart though? This bitch shot him almost direct, if not 100% directly in the heart. I think i read somewhere that Zimmerman aspired to be a full blown cop and i know he had to take classes or a test to carry it

 

Everybody knows that if you want to kill somebody, you should shoot them in the heart or around the head. If you want to stop somebody, you should aim for the leg or something



mhsillen on 14 July 2013

To those who may not think this politically motivated check out the link with info from Judicial watch.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/07/10/judicial-watch-foia-docs-show-doj-facilitated-zimmerman-protests-in-florida/



o_O.Q on 14 July 2013
chapset said:

age and weight are huge factors when you are in a fight, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, the body of a 28 years old male will be better developed than the one of a 17 year old, the 25 pound weight advantage is also pretty huge compared to that 3 inches Trayvon had over Zimmerman, there is no way Zimmerman had no other choice than to shoot he did it because he live in the States were shooting and asking question later is not as frown upon like it would be in other first world nations


this also amuses me how people seem to think that with regards to a fight the heavier person doesn't have the advantage

some of the bullshit i'm seeing in this thread is amazing lol

when was it confirmed that martin was a karate master? or for that matter any more skilled than zimmerman who was 25 pounds heavier? lmao