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chapset said:
WrathofTank said:
chapset said:
WrathofTank said:
chapset said:
 

if this is enough to justify lethal force, damn I missed a couple occasions to kill people apparently, Zimmerman was 5'7'' and 185 at the time he was getting mauled to death by this ''giant piece of man'' that was Treyvon he didn't know how to kick or punch back his only option was to blow shit up the American way

Did you feel like your life was in danger or that serious bodily harm would occur?  If not then the circumstances are completely different.  Zimmerman was engadged by a Martin and thought that his intent was to cause serious bodily harm or to kill him. 

If Zimmerman hadn't shot Martin, then the beating would have continued and Zimmerman's face would have looked far worse at the very least.

Think of it like this.  You are being attacked by a man that you had never spoken to, or met, you have no idea what they are capable of or what they may do to you.  They only thing you know is that you are now punched and thrown to the pavement.  Don't you think it is logical to think that this man may mean to cause serious bodily harm or to kill you?

If this circumstance happened to me, I would be in fear for my safety and life.  I'm pretty sure you would be to.

I would defend myself, lucky for me I know how to kick and punch I would not go grab my gun unless I see a gun or a knife in the hand or in the proximity of the other guy, I know this sound retarded but here in Canada you kinda need to prove you were in iminante danger to be able to kill someone you can't just say to the cop'' I was losing the fight he didn't have a gun or knife but I shoot him anyway, good day''

The scenario I explained above is how many people are murdered, beaten, raped, etc.  They are attacked unexpectely and usually can't defend themselves properly.

It's great that you feel confident in your ability to defend yourself.  Unfortunately with this type of thinking you would likely become a victim of serious bodily injury or death (if put into the scenario mentioned above).  If you had a gun on you and didn't defend yourself from the attacker it would be unwise.

And this shoot first ask question later mentality is the reason why you have 10-14k murders a year and your for profit prisons are thriving

This shoot first ask questions later mentality really only exist in criminals, not the thoughtful law abiding gun owners.

If you look at our states and cities with heavy gun control laws, you will notice that the crime goes up.  If you look at the cities and states with more gun freedoms you will notice that the crime go down. 

Criminals don't like to attack people that can defend themselves properly.