Eddie_Raja said:
landguy1 said:
Eddie_Raja said:
FrancisNobleman said: On a side note, I just think the main problem with this website is people making wild statements when they are not seasoned developers with the knowledge to make such assumptions. And people gather, back and forth, in discussions about what is what, and no one knows shit for real. That's how a community gets derailed, fanboys gather up, and stupid arguments begin. To prove the title of this thread, and write a compeeling and credible opinion, the OP needed to have access to and fully understand both system's hardware and working environments and being able to justify mathematically what makes a system better than the other. This thread shortened sounds like this: "Ok, lets see what wikipedia says about a single component of this entire hardware, the GPU. Nothing else weights any significant ammount of importance to be considered, because: internet gaming forums." "See ? This numbers bigger in here, smaller in there. There is some yockels, and fowckelrs, some sneivlers too, thats it. 2x more graphics."
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Wikipedia? It wasn't used once. I also have a lot of experience with the 7000 series and can back up everything he says. If you don't understand, then don't talk. Just because you don't, doesn't mean everyone doesn't...
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Apparently Eddie knows all. Following his comments on just about everyone's posts, he shows that every detail of each consloes system and internal design have been given to him and the Captain. These two "Professional hardware designers" have deemed the power of both new consoles and only their opinions can be heard.
Obviously Eddie, you can only know what is readily available to the public, which is really nothing. Don't bother to tell us how much experience you and Captain Tom have with the 7000 series cards, as it really isn't relevent. Unless you participated in the design of both the PS4 and XBone, you only have uninformed opinions like everyone else.
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Exactly I do only know what is readily available to the public about next gen's hardware. However if you understand GPU architecture at even a rudementary level, you will be able to predict how much stronger the PS4 is than the Xbox One. I just have to say two things:
1) Obviously I may not be 100% correct to a decimal point, but it is obvious that the PS4 is well above 50% stronger than the X1. It is between 55-100% more power.
2) Before righting everything someone says off, have you ever considered reading it and making an informed response (Probably not since this is VGchartz)? The numbers add up and come from, as you said: "What is readily available to the public." So then since it is, look it up and say something once you can. But just saying "I don't get it, so theirs no way he can too!" is childish.
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Funny, i don't remember saying that i didn't get it. Generally if your going to put something in qoutes, you fill that space with something they actually said.
What i said was that neither Sony nor M$ have fully disclosed the architecture of their systems. Because this information is not available, you and Captain Tom are only comparing one POSSIBLE element of the system and making your "55-100%" theories. IF you and Tom had the knowledge and experience that you claim to have, you would know that there are dozens of ways that the systems could be hamstrung by other compnents that could completely make this whole argument a waste of time. SO, here's my point more clearly for you : NO ONE KNOWS THE SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE YET, SO THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOW IF EITHER SYSTEM IS MORE POWERFUL YET.
Sorry, i felt if is said it louder that you would get what i was saying more clearly, but probably not.