Give a few examples then. They may sell a decent amount but in comparison to other platforms, mature games dont sell well on Nintendo consoles.

Sales are quite good for something with only a 3.2 million users.

In comparison at this time XBox 360 has sold about 5 million. I believe the Wii and the PS3 more, but can't find the numbers.

Budgeting a launch title at the same 1 million sales benchmark as a title five years into the console cycle is ridiculous. Xbox1/PS4 games are going to cost even more to develop. Are we going to hear more stories about games not turning a profit when there aren't 200-plus million consoles sold to support such lofty sales benchmarks?

Launch game exclusives like this should be built to sell sequels - the first game is going to take a loss. Just not enough consoles owned to support good production values (I agree, ZombiU wasn't shoddily programmed, and if it were people would complain about that instead). In a couple years, the sequel will have all the hype from the first one, plus a much greater audience to profit from. Third game even more.

I disagree. I dont see why devs need to take greater risks then they already do and expect a loss in their 1st game particularly if the consoles sells well. I mean sure a number of new IPs dont sell well at launch but some do (Resistance 1 comes to mind). If the game does well critically and is innovative I have no doubt it will sell well. In fact I expect all the sony sequels (KZ:SF and I:SS) to sell more thantheir predecessors (dont know or care about XBO).

Come on guys... I bought ZombiU.. and it turned out lame!.. its a very ordinary game without Gamepad features!..

I guess most people didnt buy into zombiu bs.. I certainly got fooled into buying it.. its jus shit.

Two random Nintendo mature-ish exclusives:

Perfect Dark (N64): 2.52 million / 32.93 million = 7.6 percent attach rate.
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out (NES): 3.02M / 61.91M = 4.9 percent

Now, how does that differ from random Xbox/PS exclusives?

God of War (PS3): average ~4.5M / 77.95M = 5.8 percent
Gears of War (X360): average ~6 M / 77.69M = 7.7 percent

Want a multi-platform?

Goldeneye (Wii): 1.76 M / 99.95M = 1.76 percent (better than Xbox360 - 410K / 77.69M = 0.53 percent, PS3 - 630K / 77.95M = 0.8 percent)

Just for fun, the hot new survival horror game against this flawed, unprofitable failure:

ZombiU: 460K / 3.19M = 14.4 percent
The Last of Us (PS3): 1.71 M / 77.95M = 2.2 percent; to reach ZombiU's equivalent attach rate, it'll have to sell an extra 9.5 million copies (more than that, since by the time it'd reach 14.4 percent, more PS3s will have sold). Precisely zero PS3 games not named Call of Duty have even made it to the 14.4 percent benchmark.

What am I missing? Are there piles and piles of failure mature games for Nintendo consoles that I'm forgetting?

As hardware WiiU is a late subpar port.  It's fans are the one keeping 3rd party relations strong and healthy.

Hundreds of posts discussing this while Gameindustry.biz obviously fabricated news, like they have done many times before. Ubisoft never talked about the profitability of ZombiU. There is not one direct quote from Ubisoft in the entire article. Just a basement dweller typing up bullshit to rile people up and garner hits.

Sadly, this post is going to be ignored and this useless discussion will continue...

Fun with numbers!: Killzone: Shadow Fall edition.

Launch exclusive for PS4, right? Okay, so Killzone 3 sold 2.48 million, let's say there were 40 million PS3s sold when it released in 2011 (offhand no idea how many of the 77.95 PS3s were sold at lower prices since 2011, it's just an estimate). You say KZ:SF will do better than it, so let's double its sales rate. Right, so 2.48M / 40M = 6.2 percent attach rate. All right, KZ:SF nails it, hits 12.4 percent attach rate during launch window.

In order to hit a million sold, even at an unreasonable 12.4 percent attach rate, PS4 will have to sell 8 million consoles. How long will it take to sell that many PS4s? Less than the eight months it took for Ubisoft's CEO to complain about ZombiU's sales? Maybe. What if it only sells as well as KZ3 (more likely)? 16 million consoles necessary to get it to a million, and that's assuming dev costs for PS4 don't raise the profitability benchmark.

That's my point, there are going to be a lot of third-party publishers complaining about not hitting their sales expectations for launch games if they're going to need to break a million sales to break even. Don't make an expensive launch game if you can't afford a loss as a down payment for future sequels.

you mean like Ubi's own Red Steel game? yeah that sequel sure did better.