Einsam_Delphin said:

Twas worth it for the 3DS, which I don't think had many quality games before the price cut either, yet they still had a cut. Not that I'm saying they should price cut before the games get there of course, but they likely did this because they want their games to sell more than anything else as that's where most profits come from. In order for their games to sell well, their console needs to sell well, as game sales are limited to the console's install base. Just look at NSMBU. The game could clearly sell more than it has based on it's uber high attach ratio and previous installments, but it's physically impossible for it to do more than it is right now with the Wii U's current install base of 3 million. NSMB2, which launched near NSMBU, has already sold 6 million compared to U's 2 million. 10x the install base definitely made the difference here, and is why they should always be shooting for a higher install base by any physically possible and reasonable means, like bundles, remodels, oh, and price cuts!

You said multiple times that people obviously don't like the Wii U's price. All I'm saying is, that has yet to be proven. Again, the game library for the Wii U now is nearly identical to when it launched 7 months ago. The fact that it's selling 20K a week is great considering there are 0 new reasons to want one if you didn't during launch.

I understand that you must get the install base higher in order to sell a ton of games. At the same time, you can't simply say "price cut!" every time your system is selling lower than expected. The games aren't out yet and a price cut would do nothing now. As for next year? (which is when you want it) as I said, wait and see. You can't judge how the Wii U will be doing months from now and it might / might not need a significant price cut.

You said multiple times that people obviously don't like the Wii U's price. All I'm saying is, that has yet to be proven. Again, the game library for the Wii U now is nearly identical to when it launched 7 months ago. The fact that it's selling 20K a week is great considering there are 0 new reasons to want one if you didn't during launch.

I understand that you must get the install base higher in order to sell a ton of games. At the same time, you can't simply say "price cut!" every time your system is selling lower than expected. The games aren't out yet and a price cut would do nothing now. As for next year? (which is when you want it) as I said, wait and see. You can't judge how the Wii U will be doing months from now and it might / might not need a significant price cut.

Agreed.  Plus, if Nintendo plays the waiting game it allows them to gauge how well the PS4 and XB1 fare.  If those system's sales drop significantly and stagnate post holiday then it gives Nintendo more room to reduce accordingly.

That's another good point. PS4 & XB1 will show how the Wii U stacks against them and they can adjust their strategy / price accordingly.

20K is absolutely terrible for sure but I don't know why anybody would think they'd be better. It doesn't "definitely call for a price cut" when the reason your system isn't selling has nothing to do with the price. If it launched at $200, it would've started off even better and sales wouldn't have dropped as low but sales would've still been below 40K every week. That's what happens when a system gets no new games for over half a year and your system had about 3 good games to begin with.

I'd say a price cut by the end of 2014 is certain but the amount isn't. Saying they need a $100 cut before the release of more than 3 quality exclusives is jumping the gun a bit.

Einsam_Delphin said:

But who's saying that? I'm definitely not.

Also you're just making assumptions. I could just as easily say that even when the Wii U get's more games it's sales still wont be that great, hence why I'm only going off of how it's been doing and what's been done before since we can't know the future or what would have been. Yes me saying there'll be a $100 price cut by the end of 2014 is also just an assumption, but I'm not using it to prove anything and it's backed up by facts n past instances, making it more of an educated guess.

You said multiple times that people obviously don't like the Wii U's price. All I'm saying is, that has yet to be proven. Again, the game library for the Wii U now is nearly identical to when it launched 7 months ago. The fact that it's selling 20K a week is great considering there are 0 new reasons to want one if you didn't during launch.

I understand that you must get the install base higher in order to sell a ton of games. At the same time, you can't simply say "price cut!" every time your system is selling lower than expected. The games aren't out yet and a price cut would do nothing now. As for next year? (which is when you want it) as I said, wait and see. You can't judge how the Wii U will be doing months from now and it might / might not need a significant price cut.

Who's saying what? You didn't bold anything from my post so I can't respond to that.

Saying it needs a price cut at all is jumping the gun though. It'd be like saying XB1 is $500, it needs a $100 cut by the end of 2014 because nobody will buy it for that much money. You & I both don't know what will happen once the games are finally released. I don't agree or disagree with you, just saying you can't simply say things like "people don't like the price" or "it definitely needs a price cut" without knowing exactly how people will respond to a consistent game release schedule. 

exactly, just look at japan sales for vita. they already reached about the same level from before the price cut (little above 10k) and it only did 31k this week because there was a good release.