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1) Do you live in a country considered to be of the "first world"?

yes

2) Do you think Piracy is 100% evil?

no

3) If you do not consider Piracy to be pure evil, can you explain what would be the good side of it?

porn

4) Do you think Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony are not making enough money?

when you're in a business, there is no such thing as making enough money

5) Suppose a developer or a videogame publisher goes bankrupt (just like in any other business), do you feel guilty because you didn't buy enough original games from them?

No, if I like their games I would have bought them anyway, if I don't like their games then I don't care if they go bankrupt, besides bankrupcy doesn't mean the games will be discontinued, more likely they would sell their ip to someone else.

6) Do you think that all people who use Piracy to play videogames could perfectly pay full retail price but they just decided not to do so?

No, some of them could, but there are people that geniuely cannot afford a game, or don't have enough interest in a game to actually buy it , I have been there myself at some point of time.

7) Do you think that for every illegal copy made of a game publishers dont sell one original game?

No, they will lose some sales, but not by that much, some people would never have played a game if they didn't pirate it.

8) Would you agree with me if I said that I have 50 illegal copies of different games is because I just chose not no pay full price of 50 different original games?

No, same as above, you would have bought some of it, but there are games that you would not buy at full price even if you did not pirate them.

9) So... that is basically how publishers calculate how much money they would have made if people had no options but to buy originals, right?

I'm not sure, but based on some of their statements regarding used game sales, I would say probably yes.

10) So If I am plannig on getting around 50 pirated games within the next 12 months but somehow the industry finds out a way to completely stop piracy I will end up paying full price for those games 50 games and the Industry will instantly make more money, right?

well, if you do like all 50 games and can afford them but choose to pirate instead, then you're an asshole, but realisticly, I don't think so, you will only buy games that you really like and within your finanical capabilities.

11) What would be good about a world 100% free of Piracy?

for companies they can probably make more money, but maybe not as much as they expect, for consumers I don't know, I suppose we can finally stop arguing about it, and companies may remove some of their anti piracy restrictions, like constant online connectivity requirement

12) You are a gamer, right? So you love videogames, but imagine a world where games are very expensive. Lets say 200 dollars for a videogame. Would you do no matter what to get them? Would you still be a gamer? Would you still buy the same amount af games?

I would still be a gamer but I would only buy games that I really like.

13) In the third world hardware is sold basically because it is fully hacked now and people can easyly play illegal copies, do you agree with this?

there are exceptions but I think it's mostly correct.

14) Do Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo look the other way because the keep producing last gen hardware to be sold in the third world knowing that it will be used to play pirated games?

I don't know, if they're making decent amount of money from it then probably yes.

15) Do you really think that piracy is a threat to the very existance of movies, books, music and finally videogames? (Last time I checked I still can buy any of those)

not really, if porn companies can still stay in business then its not even close to be of a threat to them.

16) How can this be personal? I mean, you only buy originals... good for you! But how can Piracy stop you from fully enjoy your hobbie?

it can't, its more so to do with fear that developers would stop making games or make inferior games because they're not making enough money due to piracy

17) And finally... If you DO NOT consider Piracy to be 100% pure evil, can you explain what would be the good side of it?

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Piracy is not evil I dont see directors,actors,musicians etc. starving or anyone hurt by piracy. only people enjoying their fucked up lives controled and raised by fucks who want to take it away from us.



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1) Do you live in a country considered to be of the "first world"?

Yes.

2) Do you think Piracy is 100% evil?

No.

3) If you do not consider Piracy to be pure evil, can you explain what would be the good side of it?

Piracy helps brand awareness. People low on money get to experience new things and people not low on money may be pushed to buy products they otherwise wouldn't have. People have the chance to test things before they buy.

4) Do you think Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony are not making enough money?

No.

5) Suppose a developer or a videogame publisher goes bankrupt (just like in any other business), do you feel guilty because you didn't buy enough original games from them?

No. They sure don't feel sorry for trying to rip me off, I don't see why I would feel sorry for them either.

6) Do you think that all people who use Piracy to play videogames could perfectly pay full retail price but they just decided not to do so? 

No.

7) Do you think that for every illegal copy made of a game publishers dont sell one original game?

No.

8) Would you agree with me if I said that I have 50 illegal copies of different games is because I just chose not no pay full price of 50 different original games?

No. Well, I don't really know you so it is possible but it's more likely the answer is no.

9) So... that is basically how publishers calculate how much money they would have made if people had no options but to buy originals, right?

I'm not a publisher, I can't answer this. But yes, this is pretty much the way publishers try to present piracy to the public.

10) So If I am plannig on getting around 50 pirated games within the next 12 months but somehow the industry finds out a way to completely stop piracy I will end up paying full price for those games 50 games and the Industry will instantly make more money, right?

No.

11) What would be good about a world 100% free of Piracy?

Some people would be more likely to get the profit they deserve.

12) You are a gamer, right? So you love videogames, but imagine a world where games are very expensive. Lets say 200 dollars for a videogame. Would you do no matter what to get them? Would you still be a gamer? Would you still buy the same amount af games?

'No matter what' is a strong expression - too strong. I wouldn't do anything for games. The question is too vague anyway, though. I would never buy a $200 game unless it had enough content to keep me happy for years. But what about indie games and such? If all games cost $200, I would be a gamer no more, though.

13) In the third world hardware is sold basically because it is fully hacked now and people can easyly play illegal copies, do you agree with this?

No comment. I don't know the market in the third world. I'd have to look into pricing there to be able to answer this question.

14) Do Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo look the other way because the keep producing last gen hardware to be sold in the third world knowing that it will be used to play pirated games?

I'm not sure about your point. Also, I'm not sure what to answer here because, as I said, I don't know the market in third world countries.

15) Do you really think that piracy is a threat to the very existance of movies, books, music and finally videogames? (Last time I checked I still can buy any of those)

No.

16) How can this be personal? I mean, you only buy originals... good for you! But how can Piracy stop you from fully enjoy your hobbie?

It's not personal.

17) And finally... If you DO NOT consider Piracy to  be 100% pure evil, can you explain what would be the good side of it?

See the previous question regarding the same thing.



Soleron said:
Wii_R2_Hardcore said:
Soleron said:
Is this for a school report?

Lol! No, why?

"Please answer my detailed, survey-like 17 questions just to satisfy my curiosity" seems unlikely


I'm with this guy



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

 

3) If you do not consider Piracy to be pure evil, can you explain what would be the good side of it?

If not abused (which it sadly is 99% of the time), it can function as a free trial to make people consider content that can be a financial risk to pay full price for. Later, after confirming that the product would be worth the money, the "pirate" may pay full price for an actual copy to support the makers. If the product does not seem to be worth the money, the product will be deleted while the makers have lost nothing since you would not have risked buying the product anyway.

Not sure if it counts, but piracy can also be used to create copies of things that you have paid for. I don't see anything inherently evil about that.


Sadly, this is not how, like you said, most pirates pirate games. If it was like this 99% of the time instead of 1% I would be in full agreement that piracy is a pretty good feature.



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1.  Yes.

2.  No.

3,  Games that are no longer in print or for sale on the open market.

4.  Depends on what you're talking about.  Games or otherwise?  Sony has just started becoming profitable.  Microsoft and Nintendo have been profitable for most of the time last gen and this gen.

5.  No.

6.  No.  It's called being patient If I don't want to pay $60 for a game or can't afford it, I'll wait for the price to drop. 

7.  Not every, but most.  The excuses that people give about pirating the game and they only buy it if they like it.  I call complete bs on that.

8.  I'd say there's a high probability you didn't pay for any of them.

9.  They calculate pirated copies with what they'd make if it sold at full MSRP or whatever they're selling at the time of their calculations.  Maybe a million at full MSRP, a million at 1/6 less. 

10.  Not all, but if you wanted to keep playing new games and no way to play them otherwise, you'd probably purchase some of them. 

11.  Developers would stop bitching about piracy.  Also heavily pirated systems like the PSP would have received more games and more games that have already been created would have been localized in other regions because developers wouldn't be so afraid about piracy.  Final Fantasy Type 0 for example.

12.  Yes, No, Yes, Yes.

13.  No idea.

14.  Probably not.

15.  No.

16.  Piracy on a high enough level stops developers from creating or localizing new games.  If the game doesn't meet sales, then piracy could have affected that, and on systems like the Dreamcast and PSP, it has.  Piracy has stopped me from playing games in a language I can understand and owning games that I probably would have owned.

17.  Games that are no longer in print and cannot be played otherwise. 

 

osed125 said:

 

7. No, for most games the actual sales are higher than illegal downloads (the only game I can remember that this isn't the case is Xenoblade, which the illegal downloads are higher than the sales on VGC).

A lot of PSP sales are no where close to how many copies were pirated. 



1. No
2. No
3. For playing games that never came out on a specific region. People sometimes don't have money, and gaming is his/her only form of entertainment, as long as the said person buys the game later or supports the developer somehow I don't see any issues with piracy
4. No
5. No
6. A long time ago I remember an article saying that most people who pirate games are collage student (which usually don't have the money to pay for a full game), so in most cases I think is a lack of money rather than a decision.
7. No, for most games the actual sales are higher than illegal downloads (the only game I can remember that this isn't the case is Xenoblade, which the illegal downloads are higher than the sales on VGC).
8. See answer 6. Doesn't matter if you have 100 illegal games, if you don't have the money, piracy is practically the only option to play games. 
9. I don't understand the question.
10. No, because at most you would likely only going to get 5 of those 50 games.
11. More cookies!
12. I would still game, but at that price I would never going to buy a game day 1, doesn't matter if it is my favorite franchise.
13. Depending if the person meets the conditions I stayed in question 3.
14. Sales are sales, just look at the PS2, at this point sony doesn't really care how many copies of games have been pirated, they only care about the hardware sales.
15. No
17. Piracy doesn't stop me from enjoying games and I don't think this will ever change.
17. Answer 3



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JOKA_ said:
Soleron said:
Wii_R2_Hardcore said:
Soleron said:
Is this for a school report?

Lol! No, why?

"Please answer my detailed, survey-like 17 questions just to satisfy my curiosity" seems unlikely


I'm with this guy

Is not. I just didn't want that "debate" again so I prefered to get opinons in the most neutral way. Still people is a little agressive sometimes, don't know why...

Thanks for posting anyway




1. Yes

2. No

3. Old games no longer available for purchasing.  Can be used as a demo before purchasing.  As strange as it sounds it can be used to combat drm.

4. Wut?

5. Generally its the publisher that has the most $ to gain or lose, they also are the owners of the ips

6. I'm sure not everyone can afford games on a regular basis, even in a 1st world country.

7. Nope this is one of the most misrepresented parts of piracy.  A pirated game does NOT mean a sale is lost.  Its an incorrect assumption.

8. Wut?

9. Huh?

10. Who has money or time to get and play 50 games?

11. No drm, well maybe.

12. Lowering the price of games = more sales and less piracy.

13. A better system needs to be implemented and undercut the black market.

14. Well, they still make a profit off the hardware as long as they aren't selling it at a loss.

15. Movies- people like seeing them in the theaters.  Books- lots of people like the physical version.  Music- in the 21st century most artists make money from concerts.

16.  Piracy doesn't effect me but drm sucks.

17. Testing out games b4 purchasing them.  Some games, especially old ones, just aren't available.

O and piracy/used games can introduce gamers to new franchises and potential make them purchase sequels.