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Nice to know people still whine about this but not all the bombings on innocent villages that've killed over 300 innocent children in four different countries within O-BOMB-A's presidency.



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PhoenixKing said:
Nice to know people still whine about this but not all the bombings on innocent villages that've killed over 300 innocent children in four different countries within O-BOMB-A's presidency.


Good thing you're here to put it all in perspective, huh Voice of Reason.  How about you go create the thread about the vilage bombings and keep that shit over there and leave the people that came to this thread to talk about the course case to talk about it?  Is that too much to ask?  Or do you want to go to the dead dog thread and go off topic on that one too?



attaboy said:
PhoenixKing said:
Nice to know people still whine about this but not all the bombings on innocent villages that've killed over 300 innocent children in four different countries within O-BOMB-A's presidency.


Good thing you're here to put it all in perspective, huh Voice of Reason.  How about you go create the thread about the vilage bombings and keep that shit over there and leave the people that came to this thread to talk about the course case to talk about it?  Is that too much to ask?  Or do you want to go to the dead dog thread and go off topic on that one too?

In other words, you don't care about the five year olds who were burned alive in Yemen by a US Drone strike made via tax payer money. Okay, I figured as much. You probably just think their skin pigment makes them irrelevant. 



roam said:

I wonder what would the situation be if the individuals were reversed. How many would support Trayvons right to stand his ground. He was stalked, harassed, and attacked by some guy who did end up killing him. What is the likelihood Zimmerman would have actually died if the fight continued? Seems pretty small since his wounds were only superficial. And clearly Trayvon was fighting for his life since hes now dead.


well seeing as thats not what happened. trayvon would be guilty of murder. but in this fantasy world where zimmerman, "stalked, harrassed, and attacked" then trayvon would be in the right.

ps: this case doesnt even involve stand your ground, its a simple self defense case.



At this point I do not see how he is guilty, not even that he could be found guilty.

Just about everything we have heard points towards self defense, which with Florida state law, he is not guilty of murder. If not innocent, at least enough probable cause to find him not guilty.

At this point if he is found guilty, I would put that in the field of a racist charged verdict.

It is just a shame that the media, and others have tried to turn this into a racially charged ordeal and lost site of the fact that a kid is dead.

Could this have been averted? Yes.
Should it have been averted? Yes.
Should we crucify the ONLY PERSON who has any real idea what happened? No. It will not bring the kid back and with everything I have heard to this point he is innocent of murder, but guilty of making bad decision.

Its just a completely shame that the idea of "Innocent until proven Guilty" was completely ignored in this case, mainly by the media.



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It's so sad how nobody cares about America bombing so many innocent people in four different countries via drone strikes but cares about this one crime because of media attention-seeking. :(

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zimmerman initiated a confrontation the second he got out of his vehicle to pursue the kid, who was hiding from him. all because he was tired that "these assholes, they always get away". zimmerman was fucking upset that this innocent kid who did nothing wrong was going to get away from him. how any of you can pretend zimmerman was just a pacifist victim when he was the one following the kid against the advice of police even and by the very things he said in the 911 call, is beyond imagining.   this kid, not zimmerman, was fighting for his life... and he lost.



He doesn't row.

Jakobs. We know if you've got wood in your hand, you're happy.

roam said:

 this kid, not zimmerman, was fighting for his life... and he lost.

How exactly he was fighting for his life when his only injury was the bullet wound? He most likely initiated the agression and was clobbering Zimmerman in the ground before he was shot. You can't simply fight off imaginary or real stalkers because you think they might attack you like that.

As for your 911 call, the judgement should be over his action and whether or not it constituted a crime, not over his character.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
roam said:

 this kid, not zimmerman, was fighting for his life... and he lost.

How exactly he was fighting for his life when his only injury was the bullet wound? He most likely initiated the agression and was clobbering Zimmerman in the ground before he was shot. You can't simply fight off imaginary or real stalkers because you think they might attack you like that.

As for your 911 call, the judgement should be over his action and whether or not it constituted a crime, not over his character.


its not about his character at all, it goes right to his frame of mind in that moment.   trayvon was just some dehumanized punk criminal asshole, who was getting away.  he was an outsider, he didnt belong there in zimmermans neighbourhood.     you cant even follow this situation logically and then presume zimmerman to be a victim.   why even get out of his vehicle to follow the kid if he didnt want to stop him?  probability points to zimmerman initiating the fight.  losing a fight doesnt mean you arent the aggressor.   in addition the wounds were superficial.   trayvon is dead...so he was pretty clearly fighting for his life.  even zimmerman himself said it didnt sound like himself yelling in the recording. 



He doesn't row.

Jakobs. We know if you've got wood in your hand, you're happy.

Tigerlure said:
roam said:

I wonder what would the situation be if the individuals were reversed. How many would support Trayvons right to stand his ground. He was stalked, harassed, and attacked by some guy who did end up killing him. What is the likelihood Zimmerman would have actually died if the fight continued? Seems pretty small since his wounds were only superficial. And clearly Trayvon was fighting for his life since hes now dead.


The thing is, we'll never truly know who started the fight. I don't believe Zimmerman's story (Trayvon's last words were "You got me"?? Really??), but the prosecution hasn't done enough to convict him of 2nd degree murder.

The cops said, "DON'T FOLLOW HIM" He did and he had a gun. He has to be charged with atleast man slaughter.