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Super Mario 3D World

Massively disappointed 89 22.03%
 
Somewhat disappointed 82 20.30%
 
Neutral 82 20.30%
 
Somewhat Excited 69 17.08%
 
Very Excited 80 19.80%
 
Total:402

@ metrium
I agree with you. Nintendo is really milking the mario franchise now.
- Low production value. This game could have been made on Wii just in 480p instead of 720p. Galaxy have better textures variety and Wow factor. This game really looks like a mario land 3D HD. Even Luigi's mansion 2 on 3DS looks more stunning and detailed.
- Rely on too much generic and already seen game mechanics.

We can see this statistical trend also with recent metacritic of mario games.
It is called decline.
But I am sure it will still be a 75/80 metacritic fun game.

But we were all waiting for a 97 metacritic galaxy game, hence our despair!



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Man, don't open this wound again. I'm STILL steaming about it. It's interesting how across-the-board the results are though.



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globalisateur said:
@ metrium
I agree with you. Nintendo is really milking the mario franchise now.
- Low production value. This game could have been made on Wii just in 480p instead of 720p. Galaxy have better textures variety and Wow factor. This game really looks like a mario land 3D HD. Even Luigi's mansion 2 on 3DS looks more stunning and detailed.
- Rely on too much generic and already seen game mechanics.

We can see this statistical trend also with recent metacritic of mario games.
It is called decline.
But I am sure it will still be a 75/80 metacritic fun game.

But we were all waiting for a 97 metacritic galaxy game, hence our despair!

First of all, this game looks NOTHING like anything the Wii could handle. The game is of a considerably higher graphical quality. If you're talking about art style...well, what do you expect? This is how a Mario game looks. All of the One/PS4 games I saw at E3 just looked like shinier, smoother versions of what was possible on the previous consoles.

Generic and already seen game play mechanics? I got to play two demo levels, both in co-operative. In one level, we had to take control of a plesiosaur. We had to co-ordinate all of our movements in order to control it properly, and the first time we failed miserably and died horribly. We started yelling at each other, then we started co-ordinating with each other, and for the first time that I've been a gamer I actually had to actively co-operate with somebody. This isn't just four people randomly jumping around in a level, there are actual game play mechanics centered around this. And this is just one level. Its a little early to be predicting review scores.



nuckles87 said:
globalisateur said:
@ metrium
I agree with you. Nintendo is really milking the mario franchise now.
- Low production value. This game could have been made on Wii just in 480p instead of 720p. Galaxy have better textures variety and Wow factor. This game really looks like a mario land 3D HD. Even Luigi's mansion 2 on 3DS looks more stunning and detailed.
- Rely on too much generic and already seen game mechanics.

We can see this statistical trend also with recent metacritic of mario games.
It is called decline.
But I am sure it will still be a 75/80 metacritic fun game.

But we were all waiting for a 97 metacritic galaxy game, hence our despair!

First of all, this game looks NOTHING like anything the Wii could handle. The game is of a considerably higher graphical quality. If you're talking about art style...well, what do you expect? This is how a Mario game looks. All of the One/PS4 games I saw at E3 just looked like shinier, smoother versions of what was possible on the previous consoles.

Generic and already seen game play mechanics? I got to play two demo levels, both in co-operative. In one level, we had to take control of a plesiosaur. We had to co-ordinate all of our movements in order to control it properly, and the first time we failed miserably and died horribly. We started yelling at each other, then we started co-ordinating with each other, and for the first time that I've been a gamer I actually had to actively co-operate with somebody. This isn't just four people randomly jumping around in a level, there are actual game play mechanics centered around this. And this is just one level. Its a little early to be predicting review scores.


You're doing it wrong man.  You're not actually supposed to play the game.



Blimey, I thought the poll would've lead beyond negative, given the reactions...
Colour me surprised! O.o



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I haven't been excited about a Mario game since Galaxy 1 outside of the Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi series. So at this point I recognize that Mario platformers aren't really aimed at me and I am neutral. At the very least I know that the game will be decent given I suspect the turn around for this game is probably less then 18 months.



For me, the ONLY disappointment I feel about Super Mario 3D World is because of its graphics. Visually speaking, they could have (and should have) pushed this game a lot further. Obviously it's going to look nice and colorful and crisp in HD and run at a silky smooth frame-rate...but 3D Mario games have historically been one of the BEST franchises to show off what Nintendo themselves can do visually on their own hardware. This year, 3D World was completely blown out of the water in terms of graphics by, of all things, Mario Kart. I agree with a lot of people who think Nintendo probably decided to go for immediate, approachable, simple fun with this title in order to have it ready for this holiday. Here's to hoping that a couple years AFTER this game is released, we get ANOTHER 3D Mario that really pushes the Wii U to its limit and hopefully it'll have a more open-world, free-roaming camera aspect to it.

All that being said, that's really the ONLY criticism I can level at 3D World. I'm incredibly stoked at the idea of multiplayer in a 3D Mario game where there's actually ROOM for multiplayer, and having 4 people (I expected 2) is just a bonus! I almost squealed with delight at them bringing Peach and Toad back as playable characters, complete with their own unique abilities like Super Mario Bros. 2. I can already tell from the trailer music that (just like Super Mario 3D Land) a single track from this games soundtrack will have more originality and character than ANYTHING in ANY of the 4 New Super Mario Bros. games. Same thing with the level design! And finally, while I was initially hesitant and not overly optimistic about Super Mario 3D Land's 2D/3D hybrid gameplay, after sinking 20 hours into it and completing it 100%, I can't WAIT for another game that is such a joy to play through and experience. I ended up LOVING Super Mario 3D Land, so much so that it's actually my 2nd favorite 3D Mario (after Mario 64), and so I know I'll love this game-which looks to improve upon it in almost every conceivable way-as well!



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S.Peelman said:

@ metrium:

Like I said:

"People are too pissed off for no reason.

That's what you get for thinking this game is the follow-up to the Galaxy games. It's not. NOT. NOT the follow-up to Galaxy or replacement of a proper 3D Mario on WiiU. It's the follow-up to 3D Land. Take it as such. Stop bringing Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1 and 2 into the equation.

The only thing one could be disappointed about is the fact that we need to wait even longer for such a true 3D Mario entry."

And before that:

"People should just take it for what it is and not see it as a 'Mario Universe' replacement. Because it isn't."

@ miz:

That poll is pretty exciting to follow actually !

Ppl have the right to be disapointed. Your argument is exactly like Nintendo announcing next year that the WiiU zelda is a spiritual successor of Four Sword and then saying ''ppl should'nt be disapointed, it's NOT a TP or OoT follow-up, it's your fault and that's what you get for expecting a TP successor and this game looks worthy of being a Four Sword successor so everything is fine''



 

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S.Peelman said:
I was disappointed in the fact that we didn't see the true Galaxy follow-up and the true new entry in the 3D Mario series. Disappointed that we need to wait even longer for that game to arrive.

However, I wasn't disappointed in the game, Super Mario 3D World, itself though. Game looks a lot of fun. People should just take it for what it is and not see it as a 'Mario Universe' replacement. Because it isn't.

I hope you're right and it's not a replacement to Mario Universe, maybe they are developing the real 3D Mario U and it will be released in 2015, for Mario's 30th anniversary.



To repeat myself from earlier in the thread, I have yet to hear anything particularly negative about the game from anyone who has played it, and the one true way to disappoint me is to simply make a bad game.



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