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Forums - Microsoft - DigitalFoundry: X1 memory performance improved for production console/ESRAM@192 GB/s

ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

Here is a quote from that part of the article.  After reading it again, I actually do not know if this was from MS tech or a developer as its not clear which one in this paragraph

So how could Microsoft's own internal tech teams have underestimated the capabilities of its own hardware by such a wide margin? Well, according to sources who have been briefed by Microsoft, the original bandwidth claim derives from a pretty basic calculation - 128 bytes per block multiplied by the GPU speed of 800MHz offers up the previous max throughput of 102.4GB/s. It's believed that this calculation remains true for separate read/write operations from and to the ESRAM. However, with near-final production silicon, Microsoft techs have found that the hardware is capable of reading and writingsimultaneously. Apparently, there are spare processing cycle "holes" that can be utilised for additional operations. Theoretical peak performance is one thing, but in real-life scenarios it's believed that 133GB/s throughput has been achieved with alpha transparency blending operations (FP16 x4).

Eithe way it sounds more like info to Devs then some PR stunt from some marketing department on trying to deflect negative perception of the X1 on the sly.  If anything, MS would like for all info to just fade away as it keeps debates up and going which doesn't win them any favors.  I am sure MS would like to keep things about the games and their features then go into hardware stuff where most people do not understand anything that is going on and only speculation and misinformation exist.

I think that the biggest issue from MS about the Xbox One... the confusion about its features.

One dev say one thing... other another... and a third other complete different... why not release official specs and stop with all the talk. It's not about the hardware... it's about all the Xbone features like Cloud for example... puts the things clear without room to confusion.

The speculation will only get bigger and bigger at the point that damage the feature like happened with the "DRM", "Always Online", "Family Sharing", etc.


MS isnt realeasing any specs because they do not make the X1 look favorablable against the PS4 and thus conversations divulged into hardware numbers instead of what each console is bringing to the table.  When all the dust settles it will be the features, services and games that will determine which console gets the sells.  Specs only make the 1% froth at the mouth and even then only the fanboys.  Fanboys will draw their lines as each game comes out and if they cannot win on hardware they will look to something else.

Really, we all know by now the X1 does not have the hardware of the PS4.  There is no magic sauce.  What I do believe is that we will not see a dramatic difference between the 2 consoles but only time will tell.  MS build showed some impressive stuff so having as much memory or even the size of textures might not be something that will play out this gen.