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SquishyButtMan said:
I aint no techie. Dis mean Xbone closes the gap with ps4 or is it just fud. some ppl were sayin the numbers are shiite. which is it?


Theoretically its good but this is still all theory at present as we don't have fully confirmed specs of the hardware and to be fair even then there can be other factors that inhibit performance such as system bottlenecks and driver performance amongst others.  In short its good news, how good we just don't know and probably never will.



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slowmo said:
SquishyButtMan said:
I aint no techie. Dis mean Xbone closes the gap with ps4 or is it just fud. some ppl were sayin the numbers are shiite. which is it?


Theoretically its good but this is still all theory at present as we don't have fully confirmed specs of the hardware and to be fair even then there can be other factors that inhibit performance such as system bottlenecks and driver performance amongst others.  In short its good news, how good we just don't know and probably never will.


whoa thanks dude. to me this is good news. the closer these two are the better. everybody wins. i liked it when ps360 games were on par, so id like the same for these two. seems that will be the case tho.



SquishyButtMan said:

whoa thanks dude. to me this is good news. the closer these two are the better. everybody wins. i liked it when ps360 games were on par, so id like the same for these two. seems that will be the case tho.

That increase in the 32MB eSRAM don't make the systems close... in fact don't change anything instead a better job at the post processing stuffs... PS4 still is way strong at the render part.



ethomaz said:

That increase in the 32MB eSRAM don't make the systems close... in fact don't change anything instead a better job at the post processing stuffs... PS4 still is way strong at the render part.


According to you, when we see evidence of this theoretical huge performance gulf, then you can start using such terms.  Although I don't know why I'm bothered, you'll only be made to look foolish if the performance gap is miniscule, everyone else is more sensible waiting for actual facts and not basing assumptions on GAF rumours.  

I seem to recall many people selling the merits of advanced post processing around the release of God Of War 3, some short memories on this forum.  



slowmo said:

According to you, when we see evidence of this theoretical huge performance gulf, then you can start using such terms.  Although I don't know why I'm bothered, you'll only be made to look foolish if the performance gap is miniscule, everyone else is more sensible waiting for actual facts and not basing assumptions on GAF rumours.

I seem to recall many people selling the merits of advanced post processing around the release of God Of War 3, some short memories on this forum.

There are no "theoretical" performance gulf... it is real... specs by specs... PS4 is a more powerful machine and you can compare because both uses the same arch/components.

GAF have a lot of bad assumptions.

And what I remember is that PS3 used the Cell for render and post-processing... in fact the GoW3 only use the Cell for MLAA in post processing... the eSRAM can be used to help the post-processing like the eDRAM.

Again.

MS can make the eSRAM speeds increase to 1TB/s and that won't help in render IQ... the main memory where all the reder assets are processsed (needs way more than 32MB... something like 1GB) runs at 68GB/s... they can't change that even with 1TB/s eSRAM.

And the read and write at the same time is bullshit... any reasonable guy here that knows a little about memory knows that but even so if they can do that working in separated chuncks of memory per time (1MB for read, other 1MB for write) the numbers for theoretical is wrong because there are no math in the PC world that makes the 192GB/s true.

I already worked with game development... and I works still with software development at IBM... I'm not a specialist about everything and can be wrong but I know how the hardware works... you can't change the logicial over a PC hardware.



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So ...... how about those games ...?



DF just replied to a GAF guy not for me... I'm in depression now because my question was ignored.



ethomaz said:

GAF just replied to a GAF guy not for me... I'm in depression now because my question was ignored.

 


you mean DF?



bananaking21 said:
ethomaz said:

GAF just replied to a GAF guy not for me... I'm in depression now because my question was ignored.

 


you mean DF?

Yeah lol

I checked now and I made my question was made for the DF twitter account and not like a reply to that specific account... I did again now like a reply... maybe tomorrow.



So it won't matter which console is the lead platform? Don't attack me just trying the learn how to understand specs.