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NVIDIA Preps Mass Production of Two More AD104 ‘Ada’ GPUs, Possibly The RTX 4070 & RTX 4060 Ti

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/

Hopefully these will be better priced but I wouldn't get my hopes up

AMD Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs can be distinguished by a new box, lower Tjmax temperature confirmed

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-can-be-distinguished-by-a-new-box-lower-tjmax-temperature-confirmed

I might upgrade when these come out but we will see. X3D is what zen 4 launch should have been but if the performance claims are true... Hot diggity damn!

Looks like Steam Deck can run Nanite pretty well but has issues with Lumen as fortnite on it is bugged and only does hardware raytraced lumen and not software lumen like on consoles. Still with some settings adjustment and TSR, can get it to 30 fps. I do think Steam Deck is more of a backlog killer than really playing the latest and greatest but if you did want to play, you could.

AMD Ryzen 7000 Non-X Desktop CPUs Already Available For Sale At Retailers

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-non-x-desktop-cpus-already-available-for-sale-at-retailers/

The iGPU inside AMD Ryzen™ 9 7940HS can clock to 3Ghz

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-7940hs

Insane iGPU performance. Wouldn't be surprised if the Steam Deck 2 has something similar.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 07 January 2023

                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

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Captain_Yuri said:

NVIDIA Preps Mass Production of Two More AD104 ‘Ada’ GPUs, Possibly The RTX 4070 & RTX 4060 Ti

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/

Hopefully these will be better priced but I wouldn't get my hopes up

Well, as I said a couple posts above, if the 4070Ti doesn't sell at its current price, maybe Nvidia will get the message that people aren't willing to pay as much as they thought and start pricing their cards more accordingly. And they could do that starting with those two.

Mind you, the chances of that happening are quite low (and that's being optimistic).

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs can be distinguished by a new box, lower Tjmax temperature confirmed

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-can-be-distinguished-by-a-new-box-lower-tjmax-temperature-confirmed

I might upgrade when these come out but we will see. X3D is what zen 4 launch should have been but if the performance claims are true... Hot diggity damn!

One thing I don't understand about these 3D cache CPUs is the 7800X3D.

My understanding was that launching the 5800X3D with lower clocks than the 5800X was a bit problematic for AMD, because there were some instances where the extra MHz made the regular CPU faster than the more expensive 3D one, and I thought that the launch of the 7700X was their answer to avoid that again, allowing AMD to launch a 7800X3D with the extra cache and the same or even higher clocks as the 7700X. But then you look at the specs, and see that the 7700X has a max boost of 5.4GHz while the upcoming 7800X3D will only boost to 5.0GHz.

So the question is, why? Why launching the 7700X and not call it 7800X if they were going to make the same "mistake" again? Even the 7700 non-X will have a bigger boost, to 5.3GHz!



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

So, coming from CES, we know that PCIe 5.0 NVMe drives will run very hot and that regualr heatsinks won't be enough, but how come MSI can make their ones with small heatsinks while Gigabyte needs a tower cooler?

MSI Spatium 570 and 570 PRO (I don't know which one is either of them):

vs Gigabyte AORUS Gen5

But well, when it comes to coolers, it will be hard to beat the ASUS + Noctua RTX 4080

A 4.2 slots card, so you'd need 5 slots to fit it.

Last edited by JEMC - on 07 January 2023

Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs can be distinguished by a new box, lower Tjmax temperature confirmed

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-can-be-distinguished-by-a-new-box-lower-tjmax-temperature-confirmed

I might upgrade when these come out but we will see. X3D is what zen 4 launch should have been but if the performance claims are true... Hot diggity damn!

One thing I don't understand about these 3D cache CPUs is the 7800X3D.

My understanding was that launching the 5800X3D with lower clocks than the 5800X was a bit problematic for AMD, because there were some instances where the extra MHz made the regular CPU faster than the more expensive 3D one, and I thought that the launch of the 7700X was their answer to avoid that again, allowing AMD to launch a 7800X3D with the extra cache and the same or even higher clocks as the 7700X. But then you look at the specs, and see that the 7700X has a max boost of 5.4GHz while the upcoming 7800X3D will only boost to 5.0GHz.

So the question is, why? Why launching the 7700X and not call it 7800X if they were going to make the same "mistake" again? Even the 7700 non-X will have a bigger boost, to 5.3GHz!

AMDs marketing has largely been a disaster this gen with endless confusion. Most of what they have done has made little to no sense from a company that looked very professional and ready to take on the competition during Zen 3 and RDNA 2 launches. Like when I was watching their press event at ces with them announcing their mobile zen cpus, they kept calling them the "7040" like while showing like the 7940HS. It took a bit to catch on to to the fact that 7040 means that the number that changes is 7x40 while the rest stays the same. Its a very unconventional and frankly dumb naming scheme that imo is there to mislead people cause how are normal people going to understand that the difference between a true zen 4 chip and a zen 2 chip is 7x40 or 7x20 when its hard for tech people to understand?

Overall it just feels like there have been big internal changes to management and leadership that which instead of improving their brand image has all but managed to largely ruin them.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

NVIDIA Preps Mass Production of Two More AD104 ‘Ada’ GPUs, Possibly The RTX 4070 & RTX 4060 Ti

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/

Hopefully these will be better priced but I wouldn't get my hopes up

Well, as I said a couple posts above, if the 4070Ti doesn't sell at its current price, maybe Nvidia will get the message that people aren't willing to pay as much as they thought and start pricing their cards more accordingly. And they could do that starting with those two.

Mind you, the chances of that happening are quite low (and that's being optimistic).

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs can be distinguished by a new box, lower Tjmax temperature confirmed

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-can-be-distinguished-by-a-new-box-lower-tjmax-temperature-confirmed

I might upgrade when these come out but we will see. X3D is what zen 4 launch should have been but if the performance claims are true... Hot diggity damn!

One thing I don't understand about these 3D cache CPUs is the 7800X3D.

My understanding was that launching the 5800X3D with lower clocks than the 5800X was a bit problematic for AMD, because there were some instances where the extra MHz made the regular CPU faster than the more expensive 3D one, and I thought that the launch of the 7700X was their answer to avoid that again, allowing AMD to launch a 7800X3D with the extra cache and the same or even higher clocks as the 7700X. But then you look at the specs, and see that the 7700X has a max boost of 5.4GHz while the upcoming 7800X3D will only boost to 5.0GHz.

So the question is, why? Why launching the 7700X and not call it 7800X if they were going to make the same "mistake" again? Even the 7700 non-X will have a bigger boost, to 5.3GHz!

The stacked v-cache causes a clock rate hit. It's the reason only the the 7800X3D has lower clocks. It only has one CCX. On the 7900X3D and 7950X3D only one of the CCXs have the additional cache. It's my only real concern for the 7900X3D and 7950X3D. If the scheduler isn't up to the task they won't perform as well as they should. As it stands the CCX with additional cache is supposed to be prioritized for gaming. We'll see if Windows is up to the task.



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JEMC said:

What kind of job do you have? Your profile says you're 33, how can you have such back pain?

I'm 7'0"/213cm, so most chairs don't fit me well by default, but being this large also comes with significant joint problems. It started with my knees, now my back is just as bad. I need flexible seating that adapts to me rather than me having to adapt to it. We got some of these task chairs in at work (I work in a corporate environment) and not only are the backs nice and flexible but the seats are sort of free floating and move with you when you lean back or forward. Works a lot better for me, especially as I like to lean back and stretch my legs out to keep my knees loose.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPD3XS7?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

This one doesn't have all the bells and whistles of more expensive ones but it seems to get the job done.



Darc Requiem said:
JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs can be distinguished by a new box, lower Tjmax temperature confirmed

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-cpus-can-be-distinguished-by-a-new-box-lower-tjmax-temperature-confirmed

I might upgrade when these come out but we will see. X3D is what zen 4 launch should have been but if the performance claims are true... Hot diggity damn!

One thing I don't understand about these 3D cache CPUs is the 7800X3D.

My understanding was that launching the 5800X3D with lower clocks than the 5800X was a bit problematic for AMD, because there were some instances where the extra MHz made the regular CPU faster than the more expensive 3D one, and I thought that the launch of the 7700X was their answer to avoid that again, allowing AMD to launch a 7800X3D with the extra cache and the same or even higher clocks as the 7700X. But then you look at the specs, and see that the 7700X has a max boost of 5.4GHz while the upcoming 7800X3D will only boost to 5.0GHz.

So the question is, why? Why launching the 7700X and not call it 7800X if they were going to make the same "mistake" again? Even the 7700 non-X will have a bigger boost, to 5.3GHz!

The stacked v-cache causes a clock rate hit. It's the reason only the the 7800X3D has lower clocks. It only has one CCX. On the 7900X3D and 7950X3D only one of the CCXs have the additional cache. It's my only real concern for the 7900X3D and 7950X3D. If the scheduler isn't up to the task they won't perform as well as they should. As it stands the CCX with additional cache is supposed to be prioritized for gaming. We'll see if Windows is up to the task.

Yeah, I'm aware that it can't clock as high as a chip without the extra cache, but I assumed AMD had taken that into account when preparing its CPUs so that a lower end processor like the 7700 -/X couldn't beat the higher end 7800X3D like what happened with the 5000 CPUs.

And well, AMD said that MSoft was working on an updated scheduler to take care of that. We'll have to wait and see if it arrives on time for reviews and how well it works.

TallSilhouette said:
JEMC said:

What kind of job do you have? Your profile says you're 33, how can you have such back pain?

I'm 7'0"/213cm, so most chairs don't fit me well by default, but being this large also comes with significant joint problems. It started with my knees, now my back is just as bad. I need flexible seating that adapts to me rather than me having to adapt to it. We got some of these task chairs in at work (I work in a corporate environment) and not only are the backs nice and flexible but the seats are sort of free floating and move with you when you lean back or forward. Works a lot better for me, especially as I like to lean back and stretch my legs out to keep my knees loose.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPD3XS7?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

This one doesn't have all the bells and whistles of more expensive ones but it seems to get the job done.

You're how much tall?! Wow, I didn't know your profile pic was an actual portrait of you .

And yeah, that explains your back pain. Have you checked if the chair you ordered is big enough for someone your heigh? Most chairs I've seen aren't designed for tall people (well, except a Razer one that claims to be ok with up to 200cm individuals).



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

It's the same one I use at work, now. Should do fine.



JEMC said:

Scalpers got burned with the 4080. It's not surprising that they didn't want to get burned again with the 4080 12GB 4070Tis.

Hopefully Nvidia will learn from this and lower the price once they realize that they aren't sell them.

Yeah, people are way more cautious with their money now and much more privvy to information for GPU's. Unfortunately for Nvidia, they didn't get the memo that most customers are not biting on GPU's on the higher end cards of the stack at over $700. And like you said, scalpers also learned this the hard way xP

Also realised that Epic has removed Unreal games (all of them) on Steam. Nice anti-consumer move there, Tim.



hinch said:

Also realised that Epic has removed Unreal games (all of them) on Steam. Nice anti-consumer move there, Tim.

I think Epic took them down everywhere because they shut down the servers for the games too. Not sure why Epic had to take down games like Unreal 2 too though, since I think Unreal 2 itself didn't have multiplayer at all.