The tracking system isn't an issue.  

The big challenge is the Move controllers have more buttons than the new controllers. 

From the sounds of it, Sony is pushing updates to support the new headset. 

That also fucks me up, mainly because they are all meant to be partners in this business venture, not silent and distant rivals, and Nvidia is pretty much disregarding the rest of the vendors the way it does, tells us that they consider all it's vendor partners as such, which doesn't make for a good business partnership.

This is like how Disney has stopped trying to work with others and instead opted to buy whatever it wants up, make their own Streaming channel and ignore everything else. Nvidia knows they are the main supplier for all the vendors they do business with, so that's likely why they allowed this fall-through to happen and still not give a shit about EVGA wanting to pull out of the market. 

Sad thing is, this could happen to the rest, and Nvidia would still probably be fine with selling the cards by themselves, I mean that GN video points out that the vendors are losing out in terms of pricing vs what Nvidia prices at, so that tells us that Nvidia isn't concerned that they are undercutting their own partners in the same market. 

Ngl, this just makes Nvidia toxic, like in business, pricing and company image. We've already seen them give us the middle finger for 2 yrs and only now come grovelling back to the customer, but at the same time they seem perfectly fine fobbing off EVGA.

Like I get that EVGA isn't entirely competent, going by their history, but Nvidia is still largely the one at fault (undercutting their partners, withholding information till the last moment when it benefits & suits them, etc).

The tracking system isn't an issue.  

The big challenge is the Move controllers have more buttons than the new controllers. 

I think AMD behaves better with their partners out of necessity rather than actually wanting to. The AIBs most likely get better margins because Radeon GPUs are not able to sell the volumtes that Nvidia GPUs are able to sell. Plus AMD is trying to get into the laptop and OEM markets instead of focusing on DIY so they need to have as good of a relation as possible. But I think if they get to the top, they will act similarly to Nvidia. We see this with many other tech brands such as Apple and Tesla and their distaste of anything outside of what they authorize.

And yea, Nvidia really doesn't care much about their AIB partners. I think Nvidia understands that people choose if they want to go Nvidia or Radeon first and then choose an AIB partner than choosing the AIB brand first and then choosing Nvidia or AMD. There are some that if Evga were to go to AMD would follow but thats the very little minority. Most people aren't willing to give up the wealth of features that Nvidia provides over their competition and Nvidia knows that.

The only way Nvidia will change is if they lose. Radeon or Arc really needs to hit Nvidias pride and out perform them in both Raster and Ray Tracing. If they can do that, I think Nvidia's tone could start to change. But if Nvidia keeps winning, they won't change their tone. And as a consumer, there isn't much reason for me to get Radeon or Arc if they aren't better because at the end of the day, all three are shitty companies. Just Nvidia is shittier cause they haven't lost in a long long time.

The possible solutions are basically:

- mapping multiple buttons to the stick (the issue here is that any default mapping wouldn't work for every game. A problematic one would be Skyrim)

I think AMD behaves better with their partners out of necessity rather than actually wanting to. The AIBs most likely get better margins because Radeon GPUs are not able to sell the volumtes that Nvidia GPUs are able to sell. Plus AMD is trying to get into the laptop and OEM markets instead of focusing on DIY so they need to have as good of a relation as possible. But I think if they get to the top, they will act similarly to Nvidia. We see this with many other tech brands such as Apple and Tesla and their distaste of anything outside of what they authorize.

And yea, Nvidia really doesn't care much about their AIB partners. I think Nvidia understands that people choose if they want to go Nvidia or Radeon first and then choose an AIB partner than choosing the AIB brand first and then choosing Nvidia or AMD. There are some that if Evga were to go to AMD would follow but thats the very little minority. Most people aren't willing to give up the wealth of features that Nvidia provides over their competition and Nvidia knows that.

The only way Nvidia will change is if they lose. Radeon or Arc really needs to hit Nvidias pride and out perform them in both Raster and Ray Tracing. If they can do that, I think Nvidia's tone could start to change. But if Nvidia keeps winning, they won't change their tone. And as a consumer, there isn't much reason for me to get Radeon or Arc if they aren't better because at the end of the day, all three are shitty companies. Just Nvidia is shittier cause they haven't lost in a long long time.