I think that's just what the boards have to support. After all, most A320 boards seem to support Zen 2 chips just fine, and pretty much all B350 and X370 do, despite the slide saying they don't.

In other words, you're probably fine with a B450/X470. First Gen boards have pretty small ROMs which might run into problems to fit the firmware for the new chips (which already created some problems with Zen 2 chips on cheaper models), but the second gen is probably fine. It might just take a while until the boards get an update with Zen 4000 support.

Here's hoping. If nothing else, least this will give AMD and the Motherboard Vendors a lesson on how much space they might need for future BIOS's when moving onto AM5.

GN did one of the more interesting comparison benchmarks between the Ryzen 3100 and 3300X. Both are 4 core 8 threads but 3100 has 2 CCX and 3300X has a single CCX. Some of the difference is kinda crazy with 24%+ difference at times. 3300X also beats 7700k at stock.

There is also the issue of space... Some board manufacturers only implemented a tiny amount of ROM storage and filled it up with pretty UI effects rather than microcode to support various CPU models...

So some boards actually had a firmware that supported one mix of CPU's and another firmware that supported another.
It was a mess, essentially board manufacturers tried to save a penny.

Another issue is of motherboard quality.
Take the Asus Crosshair for example... An AM2 motherboard, there was no guarantees it eventually would get support to run AM3 and AM3+ processors because other motherboards didn't, however Asus actually implemented pretty good power delivery which made it possible.

Basically this situation has always existed for AMD, it's up to the board manufacturers to implement support... And not all manufacturers care about support after the first 6 months of release... Plus not all boards are high-enough quality to support newer processors due to issues like power delivery.

Your mileage has always varied, you just need to keep an eye on your boards firmware to see if you can run something newer.
I saying that, I had an old Asrock board which never had a firmware update to support a rebadged Phenom 2 x4 as an Athlon 2 x4, yet it still ran, at the right clocks, just the CPU name was mis-reported.

Pretty bummed at this at this but not surprised. Looking more like I'm going to have to get a B550 board+new CPU.

Hoping Gigabyte will update my board though so I can put more money towards GPU and other nice things :P

Yep, the 3300X is the better choice all around, specially if you want to build a budget gaming PC.

Here's a review roundup for those that prefer other sources: https://videocardz.com/86840/amd-ryzen-3-3300x-and-ryzen-3-3100-review-roundup

And what's even funnier about the 7700K is that I read that some people are trying to sell their used ones... for twice what these two cost . Oh, my...

Same here. Was figuring Ryzen 4000 desktop would be the final model that would still work with my B450. We'll see what happens with pricing of the 3000 series, but I'm leaning towards holding out and going with a new mobo and APU or CPU+GPU now. Probably not until the 5000 series though.

Lamo they are gonna be in for a rude awakening.

It's time for the Friday news, full of articles about yesterday's Microsoft event:

SALES & DEALS

The Final Destination-like puzzle game Death Coming is free on the Epic Store
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-final-destination-like-puzzle-game-death-coming-is-free-on-the-epic-store/
Death Coming is a non-linear puzzle game in which you, as a sort of mid-level assistant manager of death, must harvest the souls of humans by killing them in strange, Final Destination-style "accidents." It's also free for the week on the Epic Games Store.
>> Epic hasn't revealed which game they'll offer free next week.

The Humble Store has started its Spring Sale, with lots of great discounts until May 21. Also there's a new Humble Bundle: the Asmodee Digital Play with Friends Bundle, with 24 games and DLCs during 13 days: https://www.humblebundle.com/games/asmodee-play-with-friends

Fanatical's new Star Deal is Project CARS 2 - Deluxe Edition, 85% off for the next 48 hours: https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/project-cars-2-deluxe-edition-game

SOFTWARE & DRIVERS

Try turning off Windows 10's Game Mode if your games are stuttering or freezing
https://www.pcgamer.com/try-turning-off-windows-10s-game-mode-if-your-games-are-stuttering-or-freezing/
Back in 2017, Microsoft introduced a "performance-boosting" Game Mode with its Creators update for Windows 10. Now three years later, there is a growing number of users who say they are experiencing performance issues, not boosts, with Game Mode enabled.
As pointed out by Guru3D (via TechRadar), this is affecting several games, including Call of Duty: Warzone and League of Legends, according to various complaints. Game freezes and stuttering appear to be the main symptoms of whatever is going on.
Some users think this might be the root cause of issues that were previously attributed to GPU drivers for AMD's Radeon RX 5000 series.
"I built a new PC last year and I've been brutalized by the 5700 XT drivers ever since, or so I thought. Windows added a 'Game Mode' apparently, on by default, in some update, and after I disabled it tonight the difference is night and day. The CRAZY intermittent stutters are TOTALLY gone in my testing. I don't know if this is an established fix that many have tried but I figured I'd put it out there for anyone who doesn't know yet," a user wrote on Reddit.
Other people have chimed in saying they're experiencing similar issues, and that disabling Game Mode did the trick. In addition, an AMD engineer said they plan on investigating the situation.

MODS/EMULATORS

Doom Eternal Gameplay Overhaul Mod increases ammo capacity, improves double jump & more
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/doom-eternal-gameplay-overhaul-mod-increases-ammo-capacity-improves-double-jump-more/
A lot of gamers hated Doom Eternal due to its limited ammo capacity. id Software has decided to alter the gameplay so that players could use a wide range of weapons, as well as the chainsaw so they could refill their ammo. Thankfully for those people, though, there is a gameplay overhaul mod that you can download and bring the game closer to Doom 2016.
Created by modder ‘gladias9’, this gameplay overhaul mod brings a collection of tweaks. Most importantly, this mod increases the ammo capacity upgrades by roughly 50%. This basically means that you can now have more ammo to shoot demons instead of looting enemies.
In addition, this mod increases the height of double jump. This is a major gameplay tweak as it will allow you to traverse the levels with ease.
Furthermore, this mod reduces the cost of weapon upgrades. As such, players can unlock skills quicker so they can experiment with them in the sandbox.
>> You can get it from Nexus Mods.

The Witcher 3 Redux Version 2.6 released, brings numerous gameplay tweaks and improvements
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-witcher-3-redux-version-2-6-released-brings-numerous-gameplay-tweaks-and-improvements/
Modder ‘Aleks Vuckovic’ has released a brand new version of The Witcher 3 Redux. According to the release notes, Version 2.6 adds a new critical effect, Drain. Drain is basically the magic equivalent of Fatigue. This means that Drain is caused by critical effects such as Hypnosis or attacks from wraiths, and lowers Geralt’s Sign Intensity each time it is applied.
Version 2.6 also re-designs Yrden Skill “Supercharged Glyphs”, Leshen Decoction and Noonwraith Decoction. It also reworks the Burning Critical Effect, and increases Yrden slowdown cap from 45% to 50%. Furthermore, it lowers Grandmaster Griffin Gear 6/6 Sign Intensity Bonus from 100% to 50% and removes 20% damage reduction.
>> Available from Nexus Mods. By the way, the article also mentions another overhaul mod that... well, basically changes everything.

GAMING NEWS

Codemasters officially reveals Dirt 5, coming to the PC in October 2020
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/codemasters-officially-reveals-dirt-5-coming-to-the-pc-in-october-2020/
Codemasters has officially announced the next part in its Dirt series, Dirt 5. In order to celebrate this announcement, the team has released the game’s debut in-engine trailer that you can find below.

New in-engine trailer released for Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/new-in-engine-trailer-released-for-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2/
It’s been a while since our last look on Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines 2, don’t you agree? Well, good news everyone as Paradox Interactive has released a brand new in-engine trailer for it.

Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla – First In-Game Trailer Released
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/assassins-creed-valhalla-first-in-game-trailer-released/
Ubisoft has just released the first in-game teaser trailer for Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla. According to Ubisoft and Microsoft, these are the graphics you can expect from this latest Assassin’s Creed game.
>> I thought this was supposed to be a gameplay trailer. I was beyond disappointed.

SEGA officially announces Yakuza: Like a Dragon for the PC, releases new cinematic trailer
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/sega-officially-announces-yakuza-like-a-dragon-for-the-pc-releases-new-cinematic-trailer/
A few days ago, we informed you about the possibility of Yakuza: Like a Dragon coming to the PC. And today it’s official. SEGA has confirmed that Yakuza: Like a Dragon will be coming to Windows 10. Moreover, the publisher released a new cinematic trailer that you can find below.

First screenshots, details and trailer for new psychological horror game, The Medium
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/first-screenshots-details-and-trailer-for-new-psychological-horror-game-the-medium/
Bloober Team today announced its largest and most ambitious project to date -- The Medium. The Medium is a tension-fueled, psychological horror game that focuses on a central motif: how your perspective changes your perception.

First in-engine trailer released for Madden NFL 21
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/first-in-engine-trailer-released-for-madden-nfl-21/
Electronic Arts has released the first in-engine trailer for Madden NFL 21. This trailer is basically a teaser trailer as it only features one scene from Madden NFL 21. Still, it will give you a small idea of what you can expect from it (when it comes to its graphics).

After almost three years, Ebb Software releases new stunning in-engine trailer for SCORN
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/after-almost-two-years-ebb-software-releases-new-stunning-in-engine-trailer-of-scorn/
Our last look on SCORN was back in August 2017. SCORN is a first-person horror game that uses Unreal Engine 4 and looked quite interesting. However, and after delaying the game, Ebb Software went radio silent. Thankfully, though, this game is still in development. During the Inside Xbox event, Ebb Software released a brand new in-engine trailer for it.

Second Extinction is a co-op FPS in which you fight dinosaurs, first screenshots & PC requirements
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/second-extinction-is-a-co-op-fps-in-which-you-fight-dinosaurs-first-screenshots-pc-requirements/
Systemic Reaction, an Avalanche Studios group has announced a new first-person shooter, Second Extinction. In this co-op shooter, players will team up with up to two other resistance fighters to take Earth back in short but intense combat operations. Oh, and you’ll be also fighting mutated dinosaurs.

Bandai Namco reveals a new action RPG, SCARLET NEXUS
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/bandai-namco-reveals-a-new-action-rpg-scarlet-nexus/
Bandai Namco has revealed a new single-player action RPG, SCARLET NEXUS. SCARLET NEXUS feels like a mix between Devil May Cry and Code Vein. In order to celebrate this new IP, the publisher has released a debut trailer that you can find below.

Bright Memory Infinite gets a brand new gameplay trailer
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/bright-memory-infinite-gets-a-brand-new-gameplay-trailer/
FYQD Personal Studio has released a new gameplay trailer for Bright Memory Infinite. Microsoft showed this trailer during the Inside Xbox event and… well… it was the only “proper” gameplay trailer that was present in it.

Chorus is a new space combat shooter, coming to the PC in 2021
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/chorus-is-a-new-space-combat-shooter-coming-to-the-pc-in-2021/
Deep Silver together with developer Deep Silver FISHLABS has announced Chorus. Chorus is a dark space-combat shooter that will be coming to the PC in 2021. In order to celebrate this announcement, the publisher released the game’s debut trailer that you can find below.

The Ascent is a new solo/co-op action RPG that is coming to the PC in 2020
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-ascent-is-a-new-solo-co-op-action-rpg-that-is-coming-to-the-pc-in-2020/
Curve Digital has announced a new cyberpunk solo and co-op action RPG, The Ascent. In this game, you assume the role of a worker, enslaved by the company that owns you and everyone else in your district.
>> This is the only game that I found interesting.

First details and trailer for the new adventure game, Call of the Sea
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/first-details-and-trailer-for-the-new-adventure-game-call-of-the-sea/
Raw Fury announced today Call of the Sea. Call of the Sea is an otherworldly adventure game set in the 1930s South Pacific. Moreover, the publisher has also released the game’s debut trailer that you can find below.

Microsoft releases new stunning screenshots for Microsoft Flight Simulator
https://www.dsogaming.com/screenshot-news/microsoft-releases-new-stunning-screenshots-for-microsoft-flight-simulator/
Microsoft has released a new set of stunning screenshots from the latest alpha build of Microsoft Flight Simulator. These new screenshots showcase some of the game’s planes, environments, cities and beautiful volumetric cloud effects.

Part two of the Friday news:

Paris Games Week has been cancelled because of the COVID-19 pandemic
https://www.pcgamer.com/paris-games-week-has-been-cancelled-because-of-the-covid-19-pandemic/
Paris Games Week isn't the most well-known videogame event in North America, but it's a big one: It attracted 317,000 visitors over five days in 2019. That's not going to happen this year, however, as organizers announced today that, due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the 2020 event scheduled for October 23-27 has been cancelled.
>> It doesn't seem to be very popular in this forums either as it's cancellation didn't warrant a thread, unlike this other one:

Tokyo Game Show has been cancelled
https://www.pcgamer.com/tokyo-game-show-has-been-cancelled/
Tokyo Game Show will not go ahead this September, its organisers have confirmed. The 2020 event was scheduled to take place between September 24-27, but like E3 2020 and Gamescom, that will no longer happen due to the COVID-19 pandemic. A replacement online event has been confirmed, with more details to come.
>> Signalstar is the one that has made a thread about it.

GTA Online's alien outfits are now free, so get out there and kill each other
https://www.pcgamer.com/gta-onlines-alien-outfits-are-now-free-so-get-out-there-and-kill-each-other/
One of the most ridiculous, and therefore best, things to happen recently in GTA Online is the eruption of a gang war between two factions of aliens. Except they're not really aliens, they're people dressed up in either green or purple body suits, and instead of beaming victims up for an anal probe they throw them into the back of a van, drive them out to the sticks, and beat the hell out of them.

Jonathan Frakes is here to tell you how sad PUBG's Dinoland is
https://www.pcgamer.com/jonathan-frakes-is-here-to-tell-you-how-sad-pubgs-dinoland-is/
Next time the circle's closing in Vikendi's Dinoland, spare a thought for its sordid history. In a new PUBG video fleshing out the theme park's history, we learn that it was once "the happiest place ever." But for reasons quite irrelevant to the 100 person bloodbaths that now take place in its vicinity, that happiness quickly turned to... despair.

Spaceship action RPG Drox Operative 2 announced
https://www.pcgamer.com/spaceship-action-rpg-drox-operative-2-announced/
While Blizzard summons Diablo, Crate Entertainment ushers in its Grim Dawn, and Grinding Gear Games follows the Path of Exile, Soldak Entertainment has been, relatively quietly, soldering away on its ambitious, not enormously attractive action RPGs, including Din's Legacy and Zombasite. But it's Drox Operative—an action RPG with spaceships—that concerns us today, as the developer has just announced a sequel.

Stuck in SnowRunner? Perhaps this tips trailer will help
https://www.pcgamer.com/stuck-in-snowrunner-perhaps-this-tips-trailer-will-help/
Travelling in the snow is hard. Really hard! That's why the only things mad enough to attempt it are Father Christmas, and the big, hulking trucks of terrain sim SnowRunner. The former cheats by using magical, flying reindeer, but the latter have to carve their way through the sloppy snow and mud. You, potentially a greenhorn player of the 'Runner series, might be finding this difficult. But publisher Focus Home have put out a handy tips video.

Drive a train across the wasteland in this free indie game
https://www.pcgamer.com/drive-a-train-across-the-wasteland-in-this-free-indie-game/
If Metro Exodus was set entirely on the train, it might look something like Keep It Alive: a game of powering through the post-apocalypse in a train carriage. As a train driver, well, more of a shoveller and a security guard, you have attend to multiple spinning plates, as the train advances from station to station in the world.

Assassin's Creed Valhalla creative director admits the 'gameplay' trailer was a letdown
https://www.pcgamer.com/assassins-creed-creative-director-admits-the-gameplay-trailer-was-a-letdown/
Ubisoft unveiled the much-anticipated Assassin's Creed Valhalla debut gameplay trailer during yesterday's Inside Xbox livestream, and to be blunt, it wasn't great. It was nice enough as trailers go, but as Chris observed there were maybe three seconds of gameplay through the entire thing, and I think he's being a little generous with that count.
(...)
The backlash was strong enough that creative director Ashraf Ismail took to Twitter to acknowledge that Ubisoft dropped the ball.
>> 100% agree.

The Golf Club 2019 is currently free to play on Steam
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-golf-club-2019-is-currently-free-to-play-on-steam/
Keeping the candle for non-crazy golf games aflame, The Golf Club has been steadily going for a few years now, most recently with The Golf Club 2019. If you can cope with the fact that it's now 2020 (actually, we're all kind of struggling with that), you'll be pleased to hear that this latest entry in the series is currently free. Sorry, free asterisk: it's free to play for the next six days on Steam.

Time to take a look at the weekend deals at GOG and Steam:

+GOG

• The first one is the weekly sale with female protagonists games, up to 90% off: https://www.gog.com/promo/20200504_weekly_sale
• The Midweek Sale and its 90% discounts will be available for another 22 hours: https://www.gog.com/promo/20200506_midweek_sale
• The weekend sale is full of RTS games up to 90% off: https://www.gog.com/promo/20200508_weekend_sale
• And there are two new releases that come with discounts;
  • The game Celestian Tales: Realms Beyond debuts with a 10% discount ubntil May 14. And the rest of the Celestian Tales are on sale up to 85% off until that same day: https://www.gog.com/game/celestian_tales_realms_beyond
  • Agent A: A puzzle in disguise lands with an 80% discount until May 14: https://www.gog.com/game/agent_a_a_puzzle_in_disguise

+Steam

• The daily deal is Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection, with a 63% discount: https://store.steampowered.com/app/586200/Street_Fighter_30th_Anniversary_Collection/
• Children of Morta is 33% off for the next 52 hours: https://store.steampowered.com/app/330020/Children_of_Morta/
• The first of the weekend deals is Hades, still in Early Access, is 20% off: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1145360/Hades/
• DOOM Eternal, 25% off (Note aside, isn0't it a bit soon for such big discounts?): https://store.steampowered.com/app/782330/DOOM_Eternal/
• Scrap Mechanic , also in Early Access, is 30% off: https://store.steampowered.com/app/387990/Scrap_Mechanic/
• Next is DRAGON BALL FighterZ, 75% off until May 12: https://store.steampowered.com/app/678950/DRAGON_BALL_FighterZ/
• And the last of the weekend deals is the Indie Megabooth Going Away (for now) sale, with up to 90% discounts until May 12: https://store.steampowered.com/sale/indiemegabooth
• And there's also the weeklong deals.

No more news to share. Until the next time, have a happy and gaming weekend.